Comments on post #2835925

@Helepolis on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-11T02:35:39-04:00

MarqFJA87 said:

So... If this counts as Charisma Break, then we ought to add it back in, right?

I re-added this image.

MarqFJA87 said:
On a related note, what about post #2592054, which depicts a similar scene with Warspite?

In my opinion, I cannot detect any Charisma to accompany any of the characters in the 2nd panel.

This is the reason why I went through the pool multiple times in history. Some things were just tossed randomly in there, just because they had a "tears" or implied "broken" character. Of course again, this is all quite subjective.

@MarqFJA87 on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-10T18:51:52-04:00

@NWSiaCB said:

In this page, the top left shows a "cool beauty" Ark, and characters are overtly commenting on her "knightly" stoicism in the top right. Then, she's a goofball stuffing her face with fish. Why is this not a breaking of the previously-established charisma?

@Helepolis said:

After reviewing the image based on your comment I can now conclude the same indeed.

So... If this counts as Charisma Break, then we ought to add it back in, right? On a related note, what about post #2592054, which depicts a similar scene with Warspite?

@Helepolis on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-10T03:57:22-04:00

NWSiaCB said:

You shouldn't get hung up on him saying "usual", he may be informed of her normal characterization, but isn't basing his argument upon being informed - Matsukaze in post #2832547 is overtly trying to act suave in frame, she gets laughed at, and she then throws a fit, all in one page. You don't need to know anything of the character to see that.

That is true. My intention wasn't to get hung up on that part, but still it is important to note.

NWSiaCB said:
In this page, the top left shows a "cool beauty" Ark, and characters are overtly commenting on her "knightly" stoicism in the top right. Then, she's a goofball stuffing her face with fish. Why is this not a breaking of the previously-established charisma?

After reviewing the image based on your comment I can now conclude the same indeed.

@NWSiaCB on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-09T12:40:44-04:00

Helepolis said:

What you're describing violates the pool's guidelines. No knowledge should be required of character in question. Any character can become charismatic, regardless of its canon nature. And that said character can have his or her charisma broken. The image, character impression by viewing and "judging" should be sufficient.

I've removed this image + many others from the pool by going through all pages again. The other post in question remained for now in the pool but I am doubting the "charisma part'. Well, this pool is mostly fuelled with opinions, making it extraordinary difficult.

You shouldn't get hung up on him saying "usual", he may be informed of her normal characterization, but isn't basing his argument upon being informed - Matsukaze in post #2832547 is overtly trying to act suave in frame, she gets laughed at, and she then throws a fit, all in one page. You don't need to know anything of the character to see that.

In this page, the top left shows a "cool beauty" Ark, and characters are overtly commenting on her "knightly" stoicism in the top right. Then, she's a goofball stuffing her face with fish. Why is this not a breaking of the previously-established charisma?

@Helepolis on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-09T12:23:21-04:00

MarqFJA87 said:

Oh no, post #2832547 definitely is Charisma Break. Second panel has Matsukaze acting like her usual cool, suave self, only for the comment about her performance looking like that of a kid in comparison to the admiral shattering her charismatic image and leaves her in the last panel acting like an immature little girl about to throw a tantrum.

What you're describing violates the pool's guidelines. No knowledge should be required of character in question. Any character can become charismatic, regardless of its canon nature. And that said character can have his or her charisma broken. The image, character impression by viewing and "judging" should be sufficient.

I've removed this image + many others from the pool by going through all pages again. The other post in question remained for now in the pool but I am doubting the "charisma part'. Well, this pool is mostly fuelled with opinions, making it extraordinary difficult.

@MarqFJA87 on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-08T20:49:52-04:00

Helepolis said:

I am not sure to be honest. I think not if I strictly take the guidelines. This and post #2832547 are currently concerning.

People toss things way too quickly into pools, not just this one, making me wonder: What is the point. Most of them not even meeting the requirements of the pool's description.

Oh no, post #2832547 definitely is Charisma Break. Second panel has Matsukaze acting like her usual cool, suave self, only for the comment about her performance looking like that of a kid in comparison to the admiral shattering her charismatic image and leaves her in the last panel acting like an immature little girl about to throw a tantrum.

@Helepolis on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-07T14:02:52-04:00

MarqFJA87 said:

Does this really count as Charisma Break?

I am not sure to be honest. I think not if I strictly take the guidelines. This and post #2832547 are currently concerning.

People toss things way too quickly into pools, not just this one, making me wonder: What is the point. Most of them not even meeting the requirements of the pool's description.

@MarqFJA87 on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-09-06T21:41:10-04:00

Does this really count as Charisma Break?

@Slysheen on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T13:06:12-04:00

Nice to see Munmu's Bissy and Ark getting along well. I was prepared to tire extremely quickly of the constant fighting and swordfish jokes, glad to see it doesn't seem to be the case.

@ZeonTwoSix on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T09:36:15-04:00

If anything, Munmu did justice to how he interpreted Ark.

@ne91ma on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T09:28:06-04:00

now she looks like Nina for a panel.

@ampzz on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T04:38:46-04:00

ithekro said:

It will be the cat that will determine how this goes down.

Wrong, it will be Munmu's admiral that will determine how she "falls".

@ithekro on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T03:32:06-04:00

ezekill said:

Its okay, Bismarck. She won't do something as shoot you in the ankle so that you won't run away anymore~

And seems like Ark Royal received a warm reception, base wise and cuisine wise.

It will be the cat that will determine how this goes down.

@ezekill on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T02:59:50-04:00

Its okay, Bismarck. She won't do something as shoot you in the ankle so that you won't run away anymore~

And seems like Ark Royal received a warm reception, base wise and cuisine wise.

@Krugger on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T01:58:58-04:00

oracle135 said:

Houshou-style

Peace through superior culinary art

@oracle135 on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T01:46:46-04:00

ithekro said:

Fish and chips?

Houshou-style

@Xian_Avenger on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T01:39:05-04:00

ithekro said:

Fish and chips?

yep

@ithekro on post #2835925 (bismarck, graf zeppelin, warspite, saratoga, ark royal, and 1 more (kantai collection) drawn by munmu-san)

2017-08-28T01:31:01-04:00

Fish and chips?