tag:danbooru.me,2005:/forum_topics/16062[APPROVED] Fang implications2019-04-27T19:28:49-04:00tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/1565282019-04-27T19:28:49-04:002019-04-27T19:28:49-04:00@NWF_Renim: Removed the closed mouth implications from the...<p>Removed the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_mouth">closed mouth</a> implications from the bulk update.</p>NWF_Renim/users/13392tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/1565272019-04-27T19:28:17-04:002019-04-27T19:28:17-04:00@DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #2000 (forum #156099)...<p>The <a class="dtext-link" href="/bulk_update_requests?search%5Bid%5D=2000">bulk update request #2000</a> (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/156099">forum #156099</a>) has been approved by <a href="/users?name=NWF_Renim">@NWF_Renim</a>.</p>DanbooruBot/users/502584tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/1561092019-04-10T04:10:33-04:002019-04-10T04:11:00-04:00@EB: > evazion said:
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> Fang out and fangs out...<blockquote>
<p>evazion said:</p>
<p><a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">Fang out</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs out</a> were both originally created by <a href="/users?name=EB">@EB</a>, but <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs out</a> came a couple years later and the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a> wiki was never updated to consider the new tag.</p>
</blockquote><p>If I actually created the latter, it may have been by accident. I feel like I've mostly been under the impression, because of the rejected implication threads pointed out here, that <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a> covered both <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a>. But I've got no strong opinion either way whether <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs out</a> should exist as a separate tag. It's just that, as iridescent slime said, it would require a lot of tag cleanup.</p>EB/users/11672tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/1561032019-04-10T02:12:46-04:002019-04-10T02:12:46-04:00@evazion: I agree with implying fang / fangs but not with...<p>I agree with implying <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> / <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a> but not with <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_mouth">closed mouth</a>.</p><p><a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">Fang out</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs out</a> were both originally created by <a href="/users?name=EB">@EB</a>, but <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs out</a> came a couple years later and the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a> wiki was never updated to consider the new tag. </p><p>I do think it's worth keeping <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs out</a> separate from <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a>. I think there's a distinct visual difference between the two, plus it allows for implications. Not implying <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a>/<a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a> has led to neither tag being used on a good third of all <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a> posts (see <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=fang_out%20-fang%20-fangs">fang_out -fang -fangs</a>). This is hard to garden since usually you can't tell from the thumbnail whether it's one <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> or two <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a>.</p><p>As for <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_mouth">closed mouth</a>, while <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a> shouldn't be used on fully open mouths (which is a common mistake), I do think it can be used on slightly <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/parted_lips">parted lips</a>. See <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/3445552">post #3445552</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/3419540">post #3419540</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/3028042">post #3028042</a>, and <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/3299286">post #3299286</a>. The important thing is that the fang protrudes past the lip, which can happen on slightly open mouths.</p>evazion/users/52664tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/1561012019-04-10T01:03:29-04:002019-04-10T01:04:55-04:00@iridescent_slime: If you carefully read that wiki definition you...<p>If you carefully read that wiki definition you quoted, you'll see that there is a slight problem with this set of implications:</p><blockquote><p>When a character shows a fang <strong>or fangs</strong> outside a closed mouth.</p></blockquote><p><a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">Fang_out</a>, per its definition, may be used when both <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a> are visible. As things stand, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang_out</a> can't implicate <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> because <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> is only for a single visible fang. That's why this very same implication was <a class="dtext-link" href="/forum_topics/11796">rejected</a> several years ago.</p><p>As for <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs_out</a>, it was created comparatively recently, presumably by someone who didn't know that <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang_out</a> could be plural. It sees little use, because most of us know to use <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang_out</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a>/<a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a>, and also due to neglect on the part of its users. It has no wiki, and other wiki pages don't link to it. I wasn't even aware this tag existed.</p><p>If there's a movement to redefine <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang_out</a> to only be singular, and make <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs_out</a> "official", I'd be okay with that, but keep in mind that there will be some manual cleanup involved for images like <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/2349393">post #2349393</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/2845900">post #2845900</a>. Alternatively, we could just alias <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs_out</a> to <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang_out</a> and continue tagging <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> or <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a> as necessary.</p><p>As for implicating <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_mouth">closed_mouth</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/121965">forum #121965</a> summarizes my feelings pretty well.</p>iridescent_slime/users/438068tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/1560992019-04-10T00:26:45-04:002019-04-27T19:28:17-04:00@user_429955: [bur:2000]
Reason: fang out wiki:
When a...<p>The bulk update request #2000 is active.</p><p>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang_out</a> -> <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs_out">fangs_out</a> -> <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a></p><p>Reason: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang_out">fang out</a> wiki:</p><p>When a character shows a <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fang">fang</a> or <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/fangs">fangs</a> outside a <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_mouth">closed mouth</a>.</p><p>EDIT: The <a class="dtext-link" href="/bulk_update_requests?search%5Bid%5D=2000">bulk update request #2000</a> (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/156099">forum #156099</a>) has been approved by <a href="/users?name=NWF_Renim">@NWF_Renim</a>.</p>user_429955/users/429955