tag:danbooru.me,2005:/forum_topics/16354 [BUR] Bikini top/bottom 2020-01-06T20:18:06-05:00 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/162179 2020-01-06T20:18:06-05:00 2020-01-06T20:18:06-05:00 @DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #2119 (forum #159934)... <p>The <a class="dtext-link" href="/bulk_update_requests?search%5Bid%5D=2119">bulk update request #2119</a> (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/159934">forum #159934</a>) has been rejected by <a href="/users?name=DanbooruBot">@DanbooruBot</a>.</p> DanbooruBot /users/502584 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/162178 2020-01-06T20:18:06-05:00 2020-01-06T20:18:06-05:00 @DanbooruBot: This bulk update request has been rejected... <p>This bulk update request has been rejected because it was not approved within 60 days.</p> DanbooruBot /users/502584 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160977 2019-11-16T19:15:44-05:00 2019-11-16T19:15:44-05:00 @DanbooruBot: This bulk update request is pending automatic... <p>This bulk update request is pending automatic rejection in 5 days.</p> DanbooruBot /users/502584 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160145 2019-10-03T17:25:42-04:00 2019-10-03T17:25:42-04:00 @ElGranFracaso: We need tag names to be clear about their... <p>We need tag names to be clear about their intent. It's an obvious and natural assumption that <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a> would mean here exactly what it means in common English usage. The fact that it currently doesn't is like having a trap set for people who don't second-guess every tag. Better, IMO, to have tags that are either perfectly clear about their meaning, or else are just weird enough that people click through to the wiki to better understand their usage.</p><p>In this case, I offer the following variations:</p><p>bikini_(top_only) / bikini_(bottom_only)</p><p>bikini_as_top / bikini_as_bottom</p><p>The latter pair in particular, I think, is very clear as to its meaning without further explanation, which helps avoid misuse by users who can't be bothered to read the wiki.</p> ElGranFracaso /users/502480 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160093 2019-09-30T14:48:42-04:00 2019-09-30T14:48:42-04:00 @evazion: The problem with bikini top and bikini bottom... <p>The problem with <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini top</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini bottom</a> is that they get constantly misused because people take the names too literally. <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">Bikini top</a> sounds like it's an article of clothing when really it's for a state of dress (wearing a bikini top without a bikini bottom). Trying to garden these tags is a neverending battle.</p> evazion /users/52664 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160080 2019-09-30T00:55:57-04:00 2019-09-30T00:55:57-04:00 @BrokenEagle98: > skylightcrystal said: > > While not... <blockquote> <p>skylightcrystal said:</p> <p>While not disagreeing with the general principle of what evazion is saying, I really don't like the idea of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top_only" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">bikini top only</a> or <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-does-not-exist" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom_only" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">bikini bottom only</a> as tag names. They sound way too much like they mean "naked bikini top" or "naked bikini bottom"...</p> </blockquote><p>Agree. If that is the way to go, it'd be easier and less confusing to just keep the same name and update the wiki to make things clear, then go through all of the color tags and add bikini color tags as required. If required, just apply judicious amounts of tag gardening / user counseling until the community at large gets the new standard.</p> BrokenEagle98 /users/23799 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160046 2019-09-27T02:58:41-04:00 2019-09-27T02:58:41-04:00 @skylightcrystal: While not disagreeing with the general... <p>While not disagreeing with the general principle of what evazion is saying, I really don't like the idea of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top_only" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">bikini top only</a> or <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-does-not-exist" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom_only" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">bikini bottom only</a> as tag names. They sound way too much like they mean "naked bikini top" or "naked bikini bottom"...</p> skylightcrystal /users/557539 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160043 2019-09-26T22:37:27-04:00 2019-09-26T22:40:02-04:00 @Unbreakable: I have to agree with evazion on this, we are... <p>I have to agree with evazion on this, we are getting way too many *_bikini_top and *_bikini_bottom tags.</p> Unbreakable /users/430030 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/160041 2019-09-26T22:13:04-04:00 2019-09-26T22:14:01-04:00 @evazion: I really don't like the way we deal with these... <p>I really don't like the way we deal with these tags. As far as I'm concerned the tags should be called <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top_only" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">bikini top only</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-does-not-exist" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom_only" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">bikini bottom only</a>, because that's what they're really for, and they should imply <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini">bikini</a>. <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">Bikini top</a> is just for when a character is wearing the top half of a bikini without the bottom. That doesn't justify having a whole separate set of tags in my view.</p><p>Compare this to something like <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/single_glove">single glove</a>. We don't call the tag <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/glove" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">glove</a> and we don't treat it as a totally separate thing from <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/gloves">gloves</a>. We don't reinvent <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/black_glove" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">black glove</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/white_glove" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">white glove</a>, etc tags for every type of glove. We just treat <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/single_glove">single glove</a> as a subset of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/gloves">gloves</a>. Bikinis should be treated the same way.</p> evazion /users/52664 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/159934 2019-09-22T00:14:06-04:00 2020-01-06T20:18:06-05:00 @BrokenEagle98: [bur:2119] Reason: I had assumed this was... <p>The bulk update request #2119 has been rejected.</p><div class="expandable"> <div class="expandable-header"><input type="button" value="Show" class="expandable-button"></div> <div class="expandable-content"><p>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/black_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">black_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/blue_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">blue_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/green_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">green_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/orange_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">orange_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/pink_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">pink_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/purple_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">purple_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/red_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">red_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/white_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">white_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/yellow_bikini_top" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">yellow_bikini_top</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_top">bikini_top</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/black_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">black_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/blue_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">blue_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/green_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">green_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/orange_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">orange_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/pink_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">pink_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/purple_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">purple_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/red_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">red_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/white_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">white_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a><br>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/yellow_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">yellow_bikini_bottom</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/bikini_bottom">bikini_bottom</a></p></div> </div><p>Reason:</p><p>I had assumed this was already in place and have had a bunch of misses myself. Looking at <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/black_bikini_bottom" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">black bikini bottom</a> alone, there are <a class="dtext-link" href="/counts/posts?tags=black_bikini_bottom+-bikini_bottom">728 misses</a>.</p><p>I'm doing the colors here first (with post counts &gt; 50), although the rest can be done later based upon how well the above does.</p><p>EDIT: This bulk update request is pending automatic rejection in 5 days.</p><p>EDIT: This bulk update request has been rejected because it was not approved within 60 days.</p><p>EDIT: The <a class="dtext-link" href="/bulk_update_requests?search%5Bid%5D=2119">bulk update request #2119</a> (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/159934">forum #159934</a>) has been rejected by <a href="/users?name=DanbooruBot">@DanbooruBot</a>.</p> BrokenEagle98 /users/23799