jxh should be up shortly, though I dunno if he'll have enough time to deal with it in the morning, or if he'll even check here before he goes to work.

Nuking Chibi-Miku is just so not cool though.

I've noticed that there is also a lot of source vandalism going on during these little vandalism spurts. As far as I'm aware, however, if you didn't know the source to begin with, the only fix is to just remove whatever incorrect source the vandal added.

Perhaps some kind of source history could be added? Whenever a source is added it shows up in the tag history, but it doesn't show what the source was changed from/to. Hitting the "Undo Changes" button doesn't fix the source either, sadly. Or at least it didn't when I used it.

moe.imouto.org has the source show up in the tag history. Maybe we could do something like that?

Thinking about it, should we add just add no racism into the rules and howto:commment. This may help more then just banning people and then have them complain about what they do wrong, saying that it was not againist the rules, and then start vandalising things.

Tieria said:
moe.imouto.org has the source show up in the tag history. Maybe we could do something like that?

Yeah, I remember reporting a case of source vandalism a while ago and this was a problem as well. In general, any bit of data we can roll back in case of vandalism would be appreciated. This goes for Artist entries as well, unless there's an invisible history we low-level drones can't see.

Of course, I dunno if that'd be too resource-intensive or not.

phane said:
There's nothing in the rules that directly says "don't be racist."
But it's within the power of the mods to ban anybody who they think is detrimental to the site.
Hell, we could ban you for posting "lol" a few times.
UxU took it upon himself to post "damn niggers" more times than we found acceptable.
And, drop that talk like you have any 'right' to be on Danbooru. "Danbooru is in the wrong," my ass.

I understand that the right to use Danbooru, or any site for that matter. Is a privilege. But then, so is any site's right to exist at all.

Those users, who have "no right to be here" upload illegal content to this site. Illegal music can be found in flash videos and games here.

Some of the flash videos and games themselves usually require MONEY to play or view, but can be played, viewed, and even downloaded from this site for FREE.

Technically this makes Danbooru a pirate hub for pirated music and games, and a few images.

My rant aside, I actually doubt anyone will ever take legal action against Danbooru. But then again, I NEVER expected any legal action to be taken against the TripleA game either.

Anti_Gendou said:
I understand that the right to use Danbooru, or any site for that matter. Is a privilege. But then, so is any site's right to exist at all.

Those users, who have "no right to be here" upload illegal content to this site. Illegal music can be found in flash videos and games here.

Some of the flash videos and games themselves usually require MONEY to play or view, but can be played, viewed, and even downloaded from this site for FREE.

Technically this makes Danbooru a pirate hub for pirated music and games, and a few images.

My rant aside, I doubt anyone will ever take legal action against Danbooru. But then again, I NEVER expected any legal action to be taken against the TripleA game either.

Is there some sort of relevant point lost somewhere among this verbiage?

Ephyon said:
Is there some sort of relevant point lost somewhere among this verbiage?

I'm pretty sure there isn't, actually.

Ephyon said:
Is there some sort of relevant point lost somewhere among this verbiage?

Tl;dr: Danbooru's right to exist at all must be contested as much as any other site that hosts paid-for content for free.

Fucking christ thats stupid.

God damn.

The legality of this site is completely tangential to the question of whether racist comments are acceptable or not.

They aren't.

I don't care if you're being ironically racist. It's most egregious against blacks but malicious racist statements about any ethnicity are not to be tolerated. I thought this rule was obvious to any intelligent person but I guess it has to be made explicit. I'll update the How To Comment page to make this clear.

With regards to homosexuality/sexism, I think it's only fair that the same rules apply to them. Saying things like "faggots should burn in hell" or "women belong in the kitchen" is sufficient grounds for a ban. Society seems to be a lot more tolerant of these sorts of statements so I'll leave it to the mods to judge whether a comment crosses the line or not. But don't expect any sympathy from me when you complain about a ban.

To the people who got banned for racist comments even though it wasn't explicitly against the rules, I'm sorry. But really. What were you thinking?

albert said:
To the people who got banned for racist comments even though it wasn't explicitly against the rules, I'm sorry. But really. What were you thinking?

From my experience, it just slips out. It's like when you're making a joke or comment you just say it with out thinking and most people won't really reread their comment before they post. It's usually what happens if something is not in the rules and when you're being stupid.

If racist comments are "just slipping out", I think you have a larger problem.

Most of the racist, sexist, or otherwise unsavory comments I see are breaking the rule of "no silly one-liners" anyway. They also never have any value. They aren't ever funny, nor are they constructive in anyway.

The vast majority of people complaining about disciplinary actions for things that aren't against the rules are breaking plenty of other rules that they can be banned for.

Besides, use some common sense people. This isn't 4chan.

Out and out racism is banned on 4chan actually. Granted the enforcement is spotty.

スラッシュ said:
Only admins (or perhaps only albert even) can do IP bans. Of course, if he's not on a static IP, that doesn't do much good.

I can't, but should probably be able to. So should all mods really.

Albert, it's much too easy for people to come back after being banned. Especially people who for some reason think they're cool because they can mess with some tags, or think that they're somehow going to be able to destroy the site. It's laughable, but even small annoyances are unnecessary annoyances.

So while this is only rarely an issue, and only with a few really immature kids who even think to do such things, it's enough of an issue to deserve further attention.

Edit: just noticed forum #24530

I would also like to have some tools for quickly repairing damage. You can "undo" tag changes, but changes to rating, parent post, or source have to be fixed one-by-one. I had to go through and remove source:ebaumsworld.com from about 50 pictures last night.

FWIW, I'm okay with continuing to Dmail albert when the situation arises. I've personally only made use of it once (and I stand behind that lifetime ban wholeheartedly).

Moderator tools for undoing actions would be great, on the other hand. And if it's a sabotage account, we should be able to do something like "undo all actions by this account" or something?

phane said:
I would also like to have some tools for quickly repairing damage. You can "undo" tag changes, but changes to rating, parent post, or source have to be fixed one-by-one. I had to go through and remove source:ebaumsworld.com from about 50 pictures last night.

And like I said before, if there was a previous source there to begin with there's no way of knowing what it is unless you recognize the image.

Algasir said:
And like I said before, if there was a previous source there to begin with there's no way of knowing what it is unless you recognize the image.

For batch vandalism like this, maybe sources could be recovered from backups?