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@Demundo on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-20T11:18:15-05:00

NWSiaCB said:

That's a myth. War is terrible for the economy, especially when it blows up your factories and kills your workers. Even if you're lucky, and it merely involves sending tons of men, money, and materials oversees, that's still all money that you're dumping straight out of the nation's coffers. There's a reason why most of the Cold War was an effort to "bleed out" the other side in wars like (Russian) Afghanistan or Vietnam. Hey, why didn't the American economy boom then? America's been at war in Afghanistan for 17 years, now, and yet we still had the worst stock market crash since the Great Depression in the middle of it....

Government spending is good for the economy (at least, in the short term), practically no matter what it's spent upon. Deficit spending even moreso. You just have to pay the bills, eventually, and preferably when the economy is strong enough to afford it. That's kind of the basics of modern economics.

As my economics professor put it, you can spend money on anything to employ people, even paying one set of people to dig holes and another to fill them, and for all the economic good fully constructed tanks do, you might as well just scrap them as soon as they roll off the assembly line. Spending that money employing people to do things like infrastructure construction or scientific research employs people and also manages to have compounding benefits to the economy later on down the line. (Which is why we never fund things like NASA anymore, because that would make too much sense!)

Oh, and about the jobs war provides.... A lot of people come back from their 11th or 12th deployment in a place like Afghanistan and they have no cartilage in their knees anymore, and are on permanent disability, forever removed from the labor pool while still drawing checks. But hey, I guess you can employ a lot of shrinks to work on the PTSD, so that's something, right?

Yes. War is terrible in many aspects. But it's, in my own opinion, good for a boost, not for long term plan since you will (always) consume more for it than you make for it.
Especially a total war where everything is for it. Well, it's still in short time period so it's not that great.
And since in total wars, the human (on the side which it is a total war) will get a good bond to actually continue working together even after the war ended. In my knowledge, the Soviet Union in and after WW2, Vietnam in and after Vietnam War are such example. (condition seeing: not a loss, for so many obvious reasons)
After wars, the jobs it previously produced can be directed to other fields (condition being: not a loss) and since the momentum that war gave hasn't died out yet, no significant PTSD effect can be seen.

But of course, there are conditions to it and such stuff needed too. By my knowledge, it happened at least twice. But both still on short term and can be seen as somewhat better than before war. Later on, it all goes as you stated.

But enough with the reality talk.
In the setting of this story, everything was bad since there's an invasion of a kind of foreign species that was basically not something can be partially taken care of by the Naval forces.
And so, as it is currently going steady, it should be getting better for the human side.
Or so I am seeing it.

@NWSiaCB on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-20T05:27:39-05:00

Demundo said:

And they say war is horrible...
I mean, look at how it boosts the economy and provides jobs.

That's a myth. War is terrible for the economy, especially when it blows up your factories and kills your workers. Even if you're lucky, and it merely involves sending tons of men, money, and materials oversees, that's still all money that you're dumping straight out of the nation's coffers. There's a reason why most of the Cold War was an effort to "bleed out" the other side in wars like (Russian) Afghanistan or Vietnam. Hey, why didn't the American economy boom then? America's been at war in Afghanistan for 17 years, now, and yet we still had the worst stock market crash since the Great Depression in the middle of it....

Government spending is good for the economy (at least, in the short term), practically no matter what it's spent upon. Deficit spending even moreso. You just have to pay the bills, eventually, and preferably when the economy is strong enough to afford it. That's kind of the basics of modern economics.

As my economics professor put it, you can spend money on anything to employ people, even paying one set of people to dig holes and another to fill them, and for all the economic good fully constructed tanks do, you might as well just scrap them as soon as they roll off the assembly line. Spending that money employing people to do things like infrastructure construction or scientific research employs people and also manages to have compounding benefits to the economy later on down the line. (Which is why we never fund things like NASA anymore, because that would make too much sense!)

Oh, and about the jobs war provides.... A lot of people come back from their 11th or 12th deployment in a place like Afghanistan and they have no cartilage in their knees anymore, and are on permanent disability, forever removed from the labor pool while still drawing checks. But hey, I guess you can employ a lot of shrinks to work on the PTSD, so that's something, right?

@Demundo on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-19T11:02:45-05:00

Mithiwithi said:

Cheerful interpretation: these three people, upon playing this game, realize that they have it pretty good being soldiers in a deadly war against alien sea monsters.

And they say war is horrible...
I mean, look at how it boosts the economy and provides jobs.

@Mithiwithi on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T23:57:35-05:00

Cheerful interpretation: these three people, upon playing this game, realize that they have it pretty good being soldiers in a deadly war against alien sea monsters.

@Rax0387 on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T20:41:50-05:00

Not recommended for those who are already a corporate slave.

@Emerald_Acid on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T18:46:09-05:00

This game is too real.

@NWSiaCB on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T18:45:51-05:00

Akatsuki will become a NEET, Admibro will be stuck doing part-time work until he dies, and Bep will work a soul-crushing job office secretary job or something while trying to buy and/or make manga for escapist fantasy, but always fail at her hobbies.

@Marcokotaro on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T15:34:33-05:00

It's a game made to make young adults feel miserable.

@CCGR on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T13:30:59-05:00

I feel like Верный will try to risk and fail miserably, Admiral will always be freeter and Akatsuki will buy Google or something.

@Madcat6204 on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T10:32:27-05:00

Every one of these situations sounds too familiar!

That game must be burned.

@ALostRouter on post #3024432 (admiral, hibiki, and akatsuki (kantai collection) drawn by kouji_(campus_life))

2018-02-18T09:44:55-05:00

Prediction: Lady's going to win and gets a new trait of being a Slave master
Update: They all got it tough eh.