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@Eboreg on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-12-04T08:01:32-05:00

Hey Tashkent, you do realize that song was made by EA? You know, the kings of evil capitalism?

@Claverhouse on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-29T16:19:26-05:00

Stirring is the word --- however with unemotion, one can see that a revival of the dreary old gods of communism and that once Union will be as useful and as exciting as a revival of the Houses of Parliament and the stuffy snivelling elected turds therein ( or the French Chambers or the Houses of Congress ) when all these things have collapsed and they are in the Dustbin of History, as inevitably they too shall pass.

You better learn how to treat everybody
For you got to go down, you got to go down
You better learn how to treat everybody
You got to go down, you got to go down
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust
The life you're living won't do to trust
You better learn how to treat everybody
For you got to go down

The Reverend Gary Davis

@AdventZero on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-04T03:11:43-05:00

turnaboutkantai said:

look like BT-7A or BT-42

~~Turret doesn't match the BT series turret that I know of. Maybe it's the T-26 light tank? There's not quite enough detail on the turret to pinpoint the make of the tank it's attached to.~~

Nevermind, it's a KV-2.

@turnaboutkantai on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-04T02:00:58-05:00

otakubouzu said:

By the way, anyone want to guess the tank Tashckent stand on?

look like BT-7A or BT-42

@oracle135 on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-04T01:46:36-04:00

otakubouzu said:

By the way, anyone want to guess the tank Tashckent stand on?

Rhino Tank, if this is RA2

@T34/38 on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T21:16:48-04:00

Tommy38t said:

I'll take a shot and say it's an early mark Valentine judging by the turret shape.

She should had at least riding on a top of an Apocalypse Tank or those KV ones.

@Tommy38t on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T18:25:30-04:00

otakubouzu said:

By the way, anyone want to guess the tank Tashckent stand on?

I'll take a shot and say it's an early mark Valentine judging by the turret shape.

@otakubouzu on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T18:06:50-04:00

By the way, anyone want to guess the tank Tashckent stand on?

@turnaboutkantai on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T17:00:45-04:00

kirov reporting

@Orochi_Herman on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T14:21:13-04:00

Before you run around with your commie campaign Tashkent, you might want to invest on more appropriate underpants.

@anoninko on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T14:16:56-04:00

The choir who performed this song sang with a great accent. They pronounce correct word "покорЯет" (to conquer) as "покорАет" (to punish).
https://web.archive.org/web/20081204060009/http://www.commandandconquer.com/portal/site/redalert/article/detail?contentId=5982ae5208bad110VgnVCM100000100d2c0aRCRD

Semi-official version gave us this version:
Our Soviet Union subjugates the whole world
Like a gigantic bear from the East.
The sheep wander aimlessly, without any cause,
Yet the Soviet bear's on the hunt.

@NNescio this video has been performed by ordinary people. They just use misheard lyrics. Or they use it on purpose, because it's more funny. They use earflap-hats, balalaikas, accordions, samovars for such purpose. I don't know why they don't hire an actor bear for a hour.
We use a word "cranberry" for such perfoms: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0

@T34/38 on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T13:38:24-04:00

If Lenin could see us now...

@NNescio on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T10:48:25-04:00

*sniff*

This is beautiful, Ido.

BarefeetChaser said:

I don't know Russian, so I'll just take your word for it.
Japanese words are pretty much the same except a few points. One of which is kinda peculiar...
@NNescio Can you take a look at the displine line? It's...well, a way of usage I'm not too familiar with,

BarefeetChaser said:

So it's literally punish then? I got all the Russian lines from @anoninko , so whatever he/she says counts for me.
And that's the iffy part...punish? For...what? I keep having this weird taste in my mouth, that's why I switched to displine. Still, it's weird to me. Unless conquer, displine, and punish are actually interchangeable somehow...

懲罰　and pokarat' (conjugated to 3rd person future pokaraet here) both mean "to punish" in the "to inflict a penalty upon" sense. Both words imply that the other party is under (or soon to be under) the power of the punisher, and has done something to justify the punishment somehow (by breaking some law or rule). There is some difference in nuance though -- pokarat' is stronger and more 'emotional' and can be used often in prose and speech to chastise a religious/ideological/national enemy, while 懲罰 is usually more technical and legalistic (in Japanese, that is, Chinese 懲罰 is more generic).

I vote "smite" to convey the meaning more precisely.

In any case, very good job with the Japanese translation here.

___

They probably started off with English lyrics, using "conquer", which somehow managed to morph into pokaraet for some weird reason. The Russian lyrics is quite silly in several places, but it fits the campy, B-movie feel of Red Alert very well. Sadly they mangled the pronunciation so bad, you can't distinguish the individual words.

Here's a version redone by a native Russian singer.

(And now I'm imagining Tashkent singing in her voice.)

@BarefeetChaser on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T10:46:16-04:00

Fiveflower said:

I think that the variant with "conquer" would make more sense, but the Russian text in this comic uses a different word.

Well, not necessarily "punish", "покарает" can also be translated to "chasten" or even "scourge", depending on context. Definitely not "conquer" though.

The Japanese here is punish for sure. Maybe.
Let's wait for the expert.

@Fiveflower on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T10:06:18-04:00

BarefeetChaser said:

So it's literally punish then? I got all the Russian lines from @anoninko , so whatever he/she says counts for me.

I think that the variant with "conquer" would make more sense, but the Russian text in this comic uses a different word.

And that's the iffy part...punish? For...what? I keep having this weird taste in my mouth, that's why I switched to displine. Still, it's weird to me. Unless conquer, displine, and punish are actually interchangeable somehow...

Well, not necessarily "punish", "покарает" can also be translated to "chasten" or even "scourge", depending on context. Definitely not "conquer" though.

@BarefeetChaser on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T09:45:35-04:00

Fiveflower said:

@BarefeetChaser Regarding the "disciplines" line, I can't help with Japanese, but the current translation is pretty close to what the Russian text says here. "Наш Советский Союз покарает...весь мир" translates to "Our Soviet Union will punish...the whole world". "Conquers" would require a different word, "покоряет". I'm not sure if there are official lyrics somewhere, but just listening to the song it's pretty hard to discern which of the two is being used.

So it's literally punish then? I got all the Russian lines from @anoninko , so whatever he/she says counts for me.
And that's the iffy part...punish? For...what? I keep having this weird taste in my mouth, that's why I switched to displine. Still, it's weird to me. Unless conquer, displine, and punish are actually interchangeable somehow...

@oracle135 on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T09:32:30-04:00

The seas will run RED!

We rule these waters!

Enemies of the Union shall BURN!

This is our day, comrades!

Seafaring patriots!

If Lenin could see us now...

@Fiveflower on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T09:20:15-04:00

@BarefeetChaser Regarding the "disciplines" line, I can't help with Japanese, but the current translation is pretty close to what the Russian text says here. "Наш Советский Союз покарает...весь мир" translates to "Our Soviet Union will punish...the whole world". "Conquers" would require a different word, "покоряет". I'm not sure if there are official lyrics somewhere, but just listening to the song it's pretty hard to discern which of the two is being used.

@Krugger on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T07:36:08-04:00

LoweGear said:

*Red Alert 3 Soviet March intensifies*

Hell March

@ithekro on post #3306272 (tashkent (kantai collection and 2 more) drawn by ido_(teketeke))

2018-11-03T07:11:57-04:00

"Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSR."