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@Levitz9 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-11-23T07:25:51-05:00

Kuyukly said:
Except he deserved it. He's the one who saved the world--no, the universe. He deserved Nia. He deserved her.

But he did get Nia. He didn't get her for ever and ever, but what little time he had with her was enough for him. Remember, he's Simon the Digger, not Simon the Hero--even if someone were to bring Reality to its knees and give him the possibility of getting Nia back on a consequence-free silver platter, he'd turn it down because
it's not what he really wants. He got what he wanted, he did what he needed, and it would honestly be a little selfish to shower praise and adoration on someone who honestly doesn't want it.

He dug his tunnels. If we want to praise him, the best thing to do would be to use those tunnels.

@nyoway on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-29T03:09:14-04:00

Lunatic6 said:
not much, Kittan also kicked the bucket

I stand by what I said.

@Lunatic6 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-19T23:31:13-04:00

nyoway said:
Thank god the movie saved all the cool people.

not much, Kittan also kicked the bucket

@nyoway on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-19T22:26:43-04:00

Thank god the movie saved all the cool people.

@YumiKanzaki on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-19T22:25:06-04:00

lordpatthethird said:
how is it that bringing back a single person from the dead could cause the spiral Nemesis while the physically impossible battle that happened prior did not.

Further more. They both earned it and nia is so pure that she deserves to live!

But the thing is, if Nia were to be brought back from the dead she would be the harbinger of the Spiral Nemesis. Why should she be the only person to be brought back? What about Kamina? Kittan? Kidd? Makken? Everyone else who died? Think of how people would react if a single person brought a loved one back to life. Everyone's going to want to do it too, and why should Simon be the only person allowed to do it? Eventually people will start playing god, and the world will go back to the way it was when Lordgenome reigned, completely going against the promise that humankind made to the Antispirals.

Yeah, it's pretty unfair, that Simon had to lose her of all people, but that's the way that Nia wanted it to be. She cared about the universe too much to let something like that happen, and Simon respected that.

@lordpatthethird on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-13T12:34:22-04:00

ashot02 said:
Why the hell is it so hard to understand that bringing Nia back to life would be abusing Spiral power, something which Simon promised never to do after the final fight, otherwise the universe is fucked. Besides, Simon let go of Nia at her own will. We saw Simon hesitate in the second movie when the Anti-Spiral flat out tells him that if they win, Nia dies. After recovering from the brief BSoD, Nia reassures Simon that she doesn't mind sacrificing herself for the sake of the universe.

Despite the fact that they really deserve their good ending after all the crap they went through, the fact that Simon accepts Nia's wish and lets go of her shows that both of them put the world before their own needs

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how is it that bringing back a single person from the dead could cause the spiral Nemesis while the physically impossible battle that happened prior did not.

Further more. They both earned it and nia is so pure that she deserves to live!

@ashot02 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-13T11:50:19-04:00

Why the hell is it so hard to understand that bringing Nia back to life would be abusing Spiral power, something which Simon promised never to do after the final fight, otherwise the universe is fucked. Besides, Simon let go of Nia at her own will. We saw Simon hesitate in the second movie when the Anti-Spiral flat out tells him that if they win, Nia dies. After recovering from the brief BSoD, Nia reassures Simon that she doesn't mind sacrificing herself for the sake of the universe.

Despite the fact that they really deserve their good ending after all the crap they went through, the fact that Simon accepts Nia's wish and lets go of her shows that both of them put the world before their own needs

@lordpatthethird on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-13T11:31:14-04:00

artanis00 said:
Sex isn't everything in life, man. Basically it's saying, "Yeah it sucks that Simon and Nia get cut short, but they had sex at least once, so it's ok." (and honestly I'm more concerned about Yoko. She got screwed out of a lover by fate... twice.)

Also, if you think about it, while Simon couldn't use Spiral Power to resurrect, the reason Nia dissolved was because the Anit-Spiral no longer existed to supply her with energy to subsist on. Well, it seems that spiral power does really well at creating mass and energy. Would it have been too hard to just will into existence the energy she needed?.

But enough water cooler discussion on what could have been the ending. It stands to reason that the way it was ended still fit the a theme of the show: continual persistence in the face of adversity, and finally overcoming it. And, grief is a form of adversity, as brutally demonstrated after episode 8.

Bringing her back from the dead would be the ultimate subversion of greaf

@lordpatthethird on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-13T11:16:44-04:00

lordpatthethird said:
I think it would have fit in perfectly with the theme of the show.

Think about it. After all that he went through, why should someone who can will a galaxy sized mecha into existence allow something as simple as death best him

@lordpatthethird on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-10-12T08:11:42-04:00

YumiKanzaki said:
Dude, even as big of a Simon/Nia fag I am, and no matter how much I really DO wish this were canon, ashot02 really does have a point. If Simon had've brought Nia back it would've went against the entire theme of the show and it would've shown that Simon learned absolutely nothing after Kamina's death.

I believe, that yes, Simon (and Yoko, respectfully) deserved a happy ending above everyone else but is it really worth creating the Spiral Nemesis over AFTER you promised that humans would be the ones to protect the universe?

Think about it...

I think it would have fit in perfectly with the theme of the show.

@YumiKanzaki on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-09-18T13:15:47-04:00

lordpatthethird said:
Shut The Fuck Up!

Dude, even as big of a Simon/Nia fag I am, and no matter how much I really DO wish this were canon, ashot02 really does have a point. If Simon had've brought Nia back it would've went against the entire theme of the show and it would've shown that Simon learned absolutely nothing after Kamina's death.

I believe, that yes, Simon (and Yoko, respectfully) deserved a happy ending above everyone else but is it really worth creating the Spiral Nemesis over AFTER you promised that humans would be the ones to protect the universe?

Think about it...

@lordpatthethird on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-09-15T14:39:33-04:00

ashot02 said:
lolfags

You didn't see Nia beg for her life, did you? She quietly accepted her eventual fate, knowing that doing otherwise would be abuse of Spiral Power, and Simon not resurrecting her shows his respect for her decision

. Besides, there’s the whole thing about Simon’s decision to leave Gurren Lagann to Gimmy and leave Kamina city to Rossiu. Now that there’s no real threat left, what would Simon do? Go back to being President? We’re shown that he really dislikes that position, and Rossiu is better fit for the job. Also, he’s only good at fighting with Gurren Lagann, but now that there’s no real fight left, what purpose would he pilot it for? There would probably be some small commotions between the other Spiral races. Earth would eventually rely on Simon's broken power again, cheaply claiming victories with Chouginga Gurren Lagann alone.

But what would've happened if Simon did bring Nia back to life? Should Simon respect the Anti-Spiral's final wish of not using Spiral Power for selfish needs, as this would bring the Spiral Nemesis? Fuck that; why stop with just her? Let's bring every person that died in the course of the series back to life. Kamina, Kittan, all of those who died in the battle of Teppelin and the Anti-Spiral; those who gladly gave their lives for the sake of the future. Screw the series' premise of moving forward. Who the hell do they think Simon is, right? Anyone who stands in their way will be destroyed by Gurren Lagann’s massive Spiral Power output

.

The other Spiral races eventually call Simon upon his selfish actions (after probably everyone on Earth already have), claiming that he’s abusing his Spiral Power. How dare they? Let’s go on the offensive. Now that all the stars in the sky are Simon's enemies, he'll just twist them out of time-space. All of the Spiral abuse during the fight would eventually lead to Simon’s Spiral power creating a galaxy within Chouginga, growing and absorbing all of the other Spiral races’ mecha, eventually consuming planets, systems, galaxies, finally the universe. Congratulations, Simon! Those selfish desires caused the Spiral Nemesis

. I guess humans were foolish, after all.

Shut The Fuck Up!

@Kuyukly on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-08-02T22:00:52-04:00

Except he deserved it. He's the one who saved the world--no, the universe. He deserved Nia. He deserved her.

@ashot02 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-05-30T02:35:11-04:00

lolfags

You didn't see Nia beg for her life, did you? She quietly accepted her eventual fate, knowing that doing otherwise would be abuse of Spiral Power, and Simon not resurrecting her shows his respect for her decision

. Besides, there’s the whole thing about Simon’s decision to leave Gurren Lagann to Gimmy and leave Kamina city to Rossiu. Now that there’s no real threat left, what would Simon do? Go back to being President? We’re shown that he really dislikes that position, and Rossiu is better fit for the job. Also, he’s only good at fighting with Gurren Lagann, but now that there’s no real fight left, what purpose would he pilot it for? There would probably be some small commotions between the other Spiral races. Earth would eventually rely on Simon's broken power again, cheaply claiming victories with Chouginga Gurren Lagann alone.

But what would've happened if Simon did bring Nia back to life? Should Simon respect the Anti-Spiral's final wish of not using Spiral Power for selfish needs, as this would bring the Spiral Nemesis? Fuck that; why stop with just her? Let's bring every person that died in the course of the series back to life. Kamina, Kittan, all of those who died in the battle of Teppelin and the Anti-Spiral; those who gladly gave their lives for the sake of the future. Screw the series' premise of moving forward. Who the hell do they think Simon is, right? Anyone who stands in their way will be destroyed by Gurren Lagann’s massive Spiral Power output

The other Spiral races eventually call Simon upon his selfish actions (after probably everyone on Earth already have), claiming that he’s abusing his Spiral Power. How dare they? Let’s go on the offensive. Now that all the stars in the sky are Simon's enemies, he'll just twist them out of time-space. All of the Spiral abuse during the fight would eventually lead to Simon’s Spiral power creating a galaxy within Chouginga, growing and absorbing all of the other Spiral races’ mecha, eventually consuming planets, systems, galaxies, finally the universe. Congratulations, Simon! Those selfish desires caused the Spiral Nemesis

. I guess humans were foolish, after all.

@Tetrominon on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-05-29T06:26:25-04:00

artanis00 said:
Also, if you think about it, while Simon couldn't use Spiral Power to resurrect, the reason Nia dissolved was because the Anit-Spiral no longer existed to supply her with energy to subsist on. Well, it seems that spiral power does really well at creating mass and energy. Would it have been too hard to just will into existence the energy she needed?.

If you'll recall, exactly that solution was suggested at the wedding just after Nia disintegrated, but Simon shot it down, as the constant output required would have risked creating the Spiral Nemesis.

@Blassmonde on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2010-03-02T04:14:49-05:00

This is CANON!

@artanis00 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2009-12-27T00:08:29-05:00

Lol101 said:
And this is how it should have ended. (屮ಥ oಥ)屮
Then again, the producers said neither of them were vigrins and they "did what had to be done" during their happy life together.

Sex isn't everything in life, man. Basically it's saying, "Yeah it sucks that Simon and Nia get cut short, but they had sex at least once, so it's ok." (and honestly I'm more concerned about Yoko. She got screwed out of a lover by fate... twice.)

Also, if you think about it, while Simon couldn't use Spiral Power to resurrect, the reason Nia dissolved was because the Anit-Spiral no longer existed to supply her with energy to subsist on. Well, it seems that spiral power does really well at creating mass and energy. Would it have been too hard to just will into existence the energy she needed?.

But enough water cooler discussion on what could have been the ending. It stands to reason that the way it was ended still fit the a theme of the show: continual persistence in the face of adversity, and finally overcoming it. And, grief is a form of adversity, as brutally demonstrated after episode 8.

@anony456 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2009-12-26T21:30:45-05:00

This is how it ended and I am Sticking to it. Hey there Kamina Jr. :D

@Lol101 on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2009-10-20T12:58:09-04:00

And this is how it should have ended.

(屮ಥ oಥ)屮
Then again, the producers said neither of them were vigrins and they "did what had to be done" during their happy life together.

@Lojackz on post #533985 (nia teppelin and simon (tengen toppa gurren lagann) drawn by matsukaze_yukiji)

2009-10-09T16:01:41-04:00

Betcha his name is Kamina!