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blindVigil said:

According to Touhou, the main thing that keeps youkai alive is fear and faith, not specifically the flesh of humans. That's why Gensokyo exists, that's why the human village is off limits, because they serve as a constant source of fear and faith in gods and monsters in a pocket world separated from the faithless outside world.

And that's kinda the whole point here. Anything that isn't human in Gensokyo is kept alive by fear and faith, for youkai and gods/goddesses respectively. To maintain that fear in the human heart, Youkai eat human, just not from the village but is supplied by Yukari. They don't need to eat human to survive, but eating human is a way to sow fear in other human which is what keep them alive.

And to keep faith flowing, gods/goddesses bestow blessing and protection on human.

One prime example is the Moriya shrine's cable car in WaHH, the tengu and Kanako struck a deal under the table, the former cause a little disturbance to remind the human that the Mountain is their domain and sow fear in their heart, Kanako then appear to solve the problem to increase the human's faith in her, typical hero vs villain situation but it worked out wonderfully for both sides.

The only reason why we don't see much human consumption is because youkai wise, while the cast is diverse most of them have no need for human meat/no longer have a need for human meat/have other alternatives to human meat, but the fact remain that they are youkai and they will eat human if given the opportunity and permission.

Not all youkai in Gensokyo come from Japan, sure, but even among the foreign ones there are man-eater type, it's just she preferred drinking blood over dirtying herself at the table so there's that.

It's not that I am mad, far from it, I am simply finding it ridiculous when so many people are refusing to accept the in-verse reality just because they want to keep their own headcanon, even disregarding Words of GOd.

It was years ago that an argument about this same point was sparked, on this very site, the post back then was also one of Zounose's work, I believe.

DammitCarl said:

And that's kinda the whole point here. Anything that isn't human in Gensokyo is kept alive by fear and faith, for youkai and gods/goddesses respectively. To maintain that fear in the human heart, Youkai eat human, just not from the village but is supplied by Yukari. They don't need to eat human to survive, but eating human is a way to sow fear in other human which is what keep them alive.

... Maybe I'm missing something here. But how in the hell is eating random outsider humans that the villagers have no connection to supposed to provide fear from the villagers? The villagers are not the ones going missing, they're not the ones vanishing into the night, their bones aren't gracing the lairs of youkai. The other example (WaHH) makes more sense. If you need fear/ faith, and you have supernatural powers that the people around you can't explain away, the easiest way to get the former is probably to just use the later.

DammitCarl said:

And that's kinda the whole point here. Anything that isn't human in Gensokyo is kept alive by fear and faith, for youkai and gods/goddesses respectively. To maintain that fear in the human heart, Youkai eat human, just not from the village but is supplied by Yukari. They don't need to eat human to survive, but eating human is a way to sow fear in other human which is what keep them alive.

Garrus said:

... Maybe I'm missing something here. But how in the hell is eating random outsider humans that the villagers have no connection to supposed to provide fear from the villagers? The villagers are not the ones going missing, they're not the ones vanishing into the night, their bones aren't gracing the lairs of youkai. The other example (WaHH) makes more sense. If you need fear/ faith, and you have supernatural powers that the people around you can't explain away, the easiest way to get the former is probably to just use the later.

To clarify things, Yukari doesn't actually supply humans for youkai to eat, any humans that get eaten are people who are so detached from society, often extremely depressed and suicidal individuals who "get lost" and end up in Gensokyo. Yukari has no hand in this whatsoever, and realistically you're probably looking at maybe a dozen people a day. And any of those people that make it to the village or the Hakurei shrine either find safety in the village or are returned home by Reimu.

Fear is primarily generated by Incidents caused by youkai, as directly attacking the village would incur the wrath of every single major youkai in Gensokyo. Fear is also found in the fact that you're only safe in the village, leaving the village at all, especially after dark, makes you fair game. You only have to believe the youkai are dangerous for them to continue existing, and being confined to a single village that is surrounded on all sides by monsters is a good way to perpetuate the idea of constant danger.

DammitCarl said:

The only reason why we don't see much human consumption is because youkai wise, while the cast is diverse most of them have no need for human meat/no longer have a need for human meat/have other alternatives to human meat, but the fact remain that they are youkai and they will eat human if given the opportunity and permission.

That's literally what I already said.

It's not that I am mad, far from it, I am simply finding it ridiculous when so many people are refusing to accept the in-verse reality just because they want to keep their own headcanon, even disregarding Words of GOd.

Again, most people aren't disregarding anything, it just doesn't matter. Everyone knows some youkai eat humans, even before it was explicitly stated people generally assumed it probably happened, it just doesn't fucking matter like 95% of the time. It's rarely mentioned in canon, only ever as a passing detail, and never has any effect on whatever plot is currently being explored.

It's such a minor background detail, that it's almost never worth actually bringing up. Zounose and a few other artist/writers just happen to feature it more prominently in their personal Gensokyos than it normally is. And in Zounose's case, it's defintely way more overblown than anything in canon, an entire canned meat producing factory to supply the entirety of Gensokyo with a constant source of human meat is no more canon than saying no one in Touhou ever eats humans.

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Well this got out of hand rather quick.

blindVigil said:

To clarify things, Yukari doesn't actually supply humans for youkai to eat, any humans that get eaten are people who are so detached from society, often extremely depressed and suicidal individuals who "get lost" and end up in Gensokyo. Yukari has no hand in this whatsoever, and realistically you're probably looking at maybe a dozen people a day. And any of those people that make it to the village or the Hakurei shrine either find safety in the village or are returned home by Reimu.

Not necessarily. Her profile in PCB and a chapter in WaHH stated that Yukari is responsible for the humans being spirited away into Gensokyo.
These implied that it wasn't so much the humans accidentally stumbling into Gensokyo, as it was Yakumo Yukari allowing them to cross over the boundary.

Now whether she does this on a whim or is actively supplying Gensokyo's youkai with "supplies" (or at the very least, the SDM) is something one can make an argument for, but I'm really not cut out for that.

Yeah, Yukari is responsible for creating the system in which outsiders are spirited away into Gensokyo now and then, which certainly isn't done because of reasons such as wanting outsiders to become villagers (if she wanted to do this she would've made them show up in the village instead of basically some random place in Gensokyo) although if someone managed to reach the village or the Hakurei Shrine she's fine with that. While she doesn't personally gap them into Gensokyo as many fans believed, she's still the one that created the system that caused it to happen, as she has better things to do than being a personal delivery system for some youkai.

In the grand scheme of Touhou Doujins, explicit or not, Zounouse stuff isn't that grimdark in theme or story, things are just a lot less centered around those above the law in Gensokyo, and when it is it's usually a lot more light hearted than normal

Goddamn it Hiei, don't ruin Haruna's experience!

Now the hypnosis is going to wear off and she going to panic!

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