I was intentionally avoiding the hololive girls, but she's starting to win me over.

You can hear the "ehehehehe~" when you give her both headpats and ear scratch

Gollgagh said:

I was intentionally avoiding the hololive girls, but she's starting to win me over.

The Hololive girls are honestly great. I didn't expect Vtubers to be so entertaining at first, but they're often really funny and at the very least some of them are actually really good at video games. Korone here is also just so wholesome, as an example have this video of her thanking the people that translate and share her content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsBxd7nr12Q

Gollgagh said:

I was intentionally avoiding the hololive girls, but she's starting to win me over.

It's rather curious how recently 2D Vtubers are growing at a much faster rate than than the 3D(Kizuna Ai, Mirai Akari, etc).

I'd presume it's because of the scripted nature of the 3D Vtubers not only make them harder to upload on a daily/weekly basis(appeal to Youtube algorithm) as well as coming off as less genuine than 2D livestreamers.

But then of course, there's also thousands of minor independent Vtubers who couldn't break 1K subs regardless of whether they use a 2D or 3D avatar(many Hololive girls themselves, Korone included, had independent channels that either failed or just were nowhere nearly as successful). So it might just be purely thanks to Hololive/Nijisanji just flat out having more marketing budget.

azurelorochi said:

It's rather curious how recently 2D Vtubers are growing at a much faster rate than than the 3D(Kizuna Ai, Mirai Akari, etc).

I think i can help a bit with this, having fallen in the V-tubert hole myself.

In the case of those 3D examples, i guess they ran out of steam, they haven't been growing or getting as much attention for 1 year or more now and a lot of them don't even upload consistently anymore. With Kizuna Ai it was mostly the original actress leaving that caused it so, there are cases and cases.

As you said, the ones growing the most are making long live streams like on twich, or the opposite, 30s meme shitpost. The point is to just produce a lot of stuff per week and the algorithm might love you.
But it's not 2D Vtubers in general, specifically Hololive streamers have seen a massive surge this year.
They're growing around 7-10k subs per week on average (22k for Korone), as opposed to the most popular Nijisanji v-tubers at 2-4k.

It's been a mix of good marketing timing and natural appeal. Like, the first big boost was in January, partially because of the big special 3D event but, mostly because of Gen 4's debug attracting new people.
Coco brought in a lot of new viewers with her Asacoco streams, both from the Japanese side of people watching it before work, but also the english viewers. From then, the rest of the girls have been trying to connect with their international fans, which just brought in more people.
Then there was the big ~May spike; the lockdown forcing us to stay inside and watch streams or funny videos.
A lot of us staring with just one translated video, were taken down the recommended rabbit hole. Since they're a pretty close, interconnected group, if you watch a Matsuri bandaid, Rushia "Go home", or an Aqua gamer rage clip, YT will recommend you more Hololive stuff in general.

Bit unrelated but i'm also glad that besides corporate-operated huge JP VTubers, English-speaking, independend virtual streamers and VTubers are getting more and more popular. Don't get me wrong, seeing Korone or Subaru or others doing dumb shit is great, but being greeted personaly and asked how my day was by cute catgirl with ~30 ppl watching her on Twitch hits on a completely different note. Or interacting with said catgirl on Twitter like with you know, normal human being.

Also lately i discovered who started EN Vtubing and ffs saying "they just copy Japan" sucks when ppl that created this independed scene actualy worked in Japanese VTubing long before Kizuna AI was a thing and created like 90% of tools and infrastructure network used by entire community.

And yes, contrary to popular belief Kizuna AI was not first Virtual Youtuber, she just was first one that get so big worldwide.

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rom_collector said:

There is also the posibility the few old Touhou fans get jelous about other fandoms growing they desperatly try and shove it everywhere else it is not related but growing momentum. I mean, less than 43,000 votes in popularity contest polls is not exactly a big number for something that has been for more than two decades.

K-Pop fans boycotted a president, for an "eternal" growing fanbase details like these would be nothing hard to do.

Now you're just projecting baseless conspiracy theories and demanding one fandom be as fanatical as another to prove its "power level"

rom_collector said:

Just and again, do not pretend everyone should follow your fandom and put your foot on everyone else business like a religious cult. It's annoying.

No one is doing either of these things, please stop projecting.

I've read over these posts three times and I still don't get it. What is this argument about?

FJH said:

I've read over these posts three times and I still don't get it. What is this argument about?

Rom collector hates Touhou fans or something. He's probably just a troll.

rom_collector said:

Not a troll, but someone not blinded by a single fandom believing every other contrary opinion should be silenced because that could prove Touhou is not big anymore.

Not everything has to be about Touhou, it's not a law. At least make it have sense, the Subterranean Animism cast would make more sense than a pair of vampires. I'm not talking about the occasional unexpected crossover or the typical favorite character compilation artists do, but images like these that shout "hey, remember how Touhou rocked back then before Fate, KanColle, im@s, Azur Lane and Vocaloid rolled all over us? You might reconsider coming back and do exactly the same you already did years ago".

How does this image shout anything? It's just fanart from someone who likes both things, stop trying to project some kind of absurd agenda on Touhou fans. This isn't fucking red pill woke politics, you edgelord.

rom_collector said:

In retrospective you have a point, I should blacklist the Touhou tag. That won't prevent people pulling the same crap on social networks and picture sites, but at least I could have a good browsing around here.

Whatever troll, have fun being triggered by innocuous fanart