Squirrelly said:

Even if the lunch isn't the whole scene is because of that stupid accent. He sounds like an over the top joke caricature where the joke is that he sounds nothing like the nationality he's supposed to be of.

As a translator, I can't say that I agree. The translator who works on this pool is from New Zealand, and as such, uses vernacular that's familiar to them to give Takeda a distinct voice that matches the way he speaks in Japanese. I find it to be perfectly fine localization, even if it's not standard neutral/North American English. In fact, I take it as a good opportunity to expand my colloquial vocabulary a bit.

If it's any consolation, this is actually a fairly toned-down accent compared to what I used to do it as.

I could always alter the elocution to fit the phonemes present in rural Oceania. But then you'd have to wonder why I heetchu wit m'fust fa govin' me dashuts by chargen m'fuftysux bux fa fushnchups.

BlastingNaba said:

If it's any consolation, this is actually a fairly toned-down accent compared to what I used to do it as.

I could always alter the elocution to fit the phonemes present in rural Oceania. But then you'd have to wonder why I heetchu wit m'fust fa givin' me dashuts by chargen m'fuftysux bux fa fushnchups.

Yeah, sometimes you have to dial it back for readability, unless the whole point of the dialog in question is that it's so heavily dialectal that other characters have trouble understanding it. (FWIW, I only stumbled over understanding "dashuts", and that's because I initially read it in my head as one word with stress on the first syllable. :-) )

It reminds me of a segment on QI in which Stephen Fry describes a phoneme-based insult lightly disguised as a football score graffiti: "Australia: 6, New Zealand: 7".

Point taken, fair enough. Although I also got yelled at for using the North American meaning for 'Homely', so I guess I'm kind of damned both ways.

BlastingNaba said:

Point taken, fair enough.

Wait, which point are you taking? I was just agreeing with your point.

Although I also got yelled at for using the North American meaning for 'Homely', so I guess I'm kind of damned both ways.

Yay...

Moonspeaker said:

Wait, which point are you taking? I was just agreeing with your point.

Oh, the 'dial it back a bit' thing. Sorry!

Saladofstones said:

They have a response, its to fire the Captain.

For writing a letter of complaint to the press.

Steak said:

For writing a letter of complaint to the press.

To the Navy command, that got leaked to the press by an unknown party. They accused the Captain, but I don't think it was him. Since the Naval Secretary then had a PA announcement that got leaked to the press, long after the Captain was fired.

Saladofstones said:

I fail to see how making a plea to your superiors that the situation aboard your vessel that you command is beyond critical is a stupid move. I don't believe that there is anything that approaches a 'worthy sacrifice' when your commander-in-chief is more concerned about the optics than the lives on the ground.

I mean Trump's response was "This isn't a literature class, why is he writing a letter." The man is out of touch with reality.

There is clear and well defined protocol for these circumstances, protocol that the captain of the USS Roosevelt chose to ignore.
As the captain of a USN Supercarrier, he had access to a hotline with the Pentagon, which by protocol he should have used because a pandemic outbreak qualifies under Navy protocol as a CBRN incident. He didn't, using that hotline leaves a record on both sides, and both are clear he didn't.
By protocol, the moment he realized there was an outbreak on the ship, he was to immediately make steam for the middle of the ocean, raise quarantine flags, and get on that hotline to declare the situation.
This is STANDARD OPERATIONS for Ocean Going Vessels, even merchant marine ships have this standard (although they don't hotline the Pentagon, they have other agencies they are obligated to contact). Hell, technically speaking even private Yachts are supposed to follow this (although not the middle of the ocean, for them).
The captain did none of this, he tried to contact his direct superior, but didn't even indicate the situation was an emergency. You don't send an e-mail to the admiral with the subject line 'RE: Covid-19' and then give up because you don't get a timely response, even if you didn't have the hotline you get on the damned horn and call up the chain of command until you get someone who will listen. There are methods to every system of madness, even the US Military bureaucracy.
(edit 2: this is in reference to what he did before the 'leaked' letter, and the e-mail bit is hyperbole)

PotUS Trump's response in this incident is correct and isn't even the tiniest bit out of touch with reality: the man shouldn't be writing a letter - especially not to his hometown media (Edit: Let's scratch that and assume that his letter was intended to the Chain of Command like he claims) . He has access to the ears of Navy Command all the way up to the White House directly, he should have made a call - and one is all it would have taken, as I alluded above.

The Former Captain of the USS. Roosevelt should never have held a command position, the moment pressure was applied he shattered and forgot the protocol which was established specifically for these sorts of circumstances. That's just the facts.

Steak said:

The navy really has no response?

The US Navy has protocols for the containment of pandemics and infectious disease outbreak aboard ships. The Captain chose to follow ignore these guidelines (or just pay lip-service to them) and instead panicked, which is one of the many reasons the Navy determined loss of confidence in his ability to command and removed him from his position.

I don't have much faith in the navy in this case. Their decision to call the Captain naive or stupid, then have to walk back what they said, on top of firing him before the conclusion of an investigation (as is procedure to do), which in of itself was not done with proper consultation according to what we know.

It all points to a Naval command that bungled the situation aboard the Roosevelt, and when the matter became public, they looked to attack the messenger and hope this blows over.

kibehisa said:

PotUS Trump's response in this incident is correct and isn't even the tiniest bit out of touch with reality: the man shouldn't be writing a letter - especially not to his hometown media. He has access to the ears of Navy Command all the way up to the White House directly, he should have made a call - and one is all it would have taken, as I alluded above.

The punishment toward the captain was actually harsher than it should have been and clearly an overreaction by the leadership. They've screwed up and only succeeded in painting a picture that they do not care about the health and safety of the personnel under them, and succeeded in making the captain appear as a martyr who was punished for doing the "right thing". I say that in quotations, because clearly he did screw up with this as well, but it is clear that those above him have clearly screwed up on this too and if they continue with their current course they're just going to succeed in destroying confidence in their ability to command during this crisis.

Additionally the Acting Secretary of the Navy, a career businessman, attacking the former Captain in an address to the crew of the ship is also clearly a failure in the current leadership.

Saladofstones said:

I don't have much faith in the navy in this case. (etc)

Honestly in agreement with you on what you said here and don't have anything else to add.

NWF_Renim said:

The punishment toward the captain was actually harsher than it should have been... (etc)

While I disagree about the harshness of the punishment (removal from role is standard for a loss of confidence), I do entirely agree that attacking the Captain in the language that has been thrown at him by certain parties is uncalled for and is in fact a direct violation of the UCMJ, which even the civilian parts of the military must abide by.

And absolutely the Navy themselves have fucked this entire thing up royally. There is a good chance the Captain would have known and followed the infectious disease protocols if the Navy had properly trained their commanding officers. This is moreso a failure of training on the part of the Navy than it is a failure of the Captain to follow protocol, BUT he still did fail to follow protocol which IS a loss of confidence.

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There is something off about what these characters in the alignment trees are saying... like, the evil group would fit better into the Neutral or (almost) Good tree whilst the Chaotic "Good" one should definitely be down in the CE tree.

Elmithian said:

There is something off about what these characters in the alignment trees are saying... like, the evil group would fit better into the Neutral or (almost) Good tree whilst the Chaotic "Good" one should definitely be down in the CE tree.

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Now there is at least one horse(bird).