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Steak said:

Apparently only 155 on board have been infected. Out of a crew of thousands. The navy really has no response? No quarantine procedures? No medivac? They have to try and get the President involved? I thought NBC doctrine was well established during the Cold War, or was that only in Clancy novels?

They have a response, its to fire the Captain.

Saladofstones said:

They have a response, its to fire the Captain.

For writing a letter of complaint to the press.

Steak said:

For writing a letter of complaint to the press.

To the Navy command, that got leaked to the press by an unknown party. They accused the Captain, but I don't think it was him. Since the Naval Secretary then had a PA announcement that got leaked to the press, long after the Captain was fired.

Saladofstones said:

I fail to see how making a plea to your superiors that the situation aboard your vessel that you command is beyond critical is a stupid move. I don't believe that there is anything that approaches a 'worthy sacrifice' when your commander-in-chief is more concerned about the optics than the lives on the ground.

I mean Trump's response was "This isn't a literature class, why is he writing a letter." The man is out of touch with reality.

There is clear and well defined protocol for these circumstances, protocol that the captain of the USS Roosevelt chose to ignore.
As the captain of a USN Supercarrier, he had access to a hotline with the Pentagon, which by protocol he should have used because a pandemic outbreak qualifies under Navy protocol as a CBRN incident. He didn't, using that hotline leaves a record on both sides, and both are clear he didn't.
By protocol, the moment he realized there was an outbreak on the ship, he was to immediately make steam for the middle of the ocean, raise quarantine flags, and get on that hotline to declare the situation.
This is STANDARD OPERATIONS for Ocean Going Vessels, even merchant marine ships have this standard (although they don't hotline the Pentagon, they have other agencies they are obligated to contact). Hell, technically speaking even private Yachts are supposed to follow this (although not the middle of the ocean, for them).
The captain did none of this, he tried to contact his direct superior, but didn't even indicate the situation was an emergency. You don't send an e-mail to the admiral with the subject line 'RE: Covid-19' and then give up because you don't get a timely response, even if you didn't have the hotline you get on the damned horn and call up the chain of command until you get someone who will listen. There are methods to every system of madness, even the US Military bureaucracy.
(edit 2: this is in reference to what he did before the 'leaked' letter, and the e-mail bit is hyperbole)

PotUS Trump's response in this incident is correct and isn't even the tiniest bit out of touch with reality: the man shouldn't be writing a letter - especially not to his hometown media (Edit: Let's scratch that and assume that his letter was intended to the Chain of Command like he claims) . He has access to the ears of Navy Command all the way up to the White House directly, he should have made a call - and one is all it would have taken, as I alluded above.

The Former Captain of the USS. Roosevelt should never have held a command position, the moment pressure was applied he shattered and forgot the protocol which was established specifically for these sorts of circumstances. That's just the facts.

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I don't have much faith in the navy in this case. Their decision to call the Captain naive or stupid, then have to walk back what they said, on top of firing him before the conclusion of an investigation (as is procedure to do), which in of itself was not done with proper consultation according to what we know.

It all points to a Naval command that bungled the situation aboard the Roosevelt, and when the matter became public, they looked to attack the messenger and hope this blows over.

kibehisa said:

The punishment toward the captain was actually harsher than it should have been and clearly an overreaction by the leadership. They've screwed up and only succeeded in painting a picture that they do not have the care about the health and safety of the personnel under them, and succeeded in making the captain appear as a martyr who was punished for doing the "right thing". I say that in quotations, because clearly he did screw up with this as well, but it is clear that those above him have clearly screwed up on this too and if they continue with their current course they're just going to succeed in destroying confidence in their own ability to command during this crisis.

Additionally the Acting Secretary of the Navy, a career businessman, attacking the former Captain in an address to the crew of the ship is also clearly a failure in the current leadership.

There is something off about what these characters in the alignment trees are saying... like, the evil group would fit better into the Neutral or (almost) Good tree whilst the Chaotic "Good" one should definitely be down in the CE tree.

Elmithian said:

There is something off about what these characters in the alignment trees are saying... like, the evil group would fit better into the Neutral or (almost) Good tree whilst the Chaotic "Good" one should definitely be down in the CE tree.

Ssshhhhh, no thinking, only tea time.

It's Rinnosuke's fault that Marisa breaks into various & sundry youkai's houses to steal magic books...?

Pyrus said:

It's Rinnosuke's fault that Marisa breaks into various & sundry youkai's houses to steal magic books...?

Nah, that's definitely Mima's influence.

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