pluggedbus, don't spread the word too much, cause that would just cost lotsa bandwidth, and that would in turn probably reverse this change. :D

葉月 said:
I'm afraid you will have to endure. What with being privileged and being able to see explicit posts...

SONOVABITCH!

Well, I guess it's cool to be privileged, thanks dude! :D Plus, now blacklisting rating:explicit would actually work, right?

... But that really fucked up my next "silly feature idea that probably only I would use" screenshot, hah! (EDIT: It actually improved it, so uh, thanks!)

surasshu said:
pluggedbus, don't spread the word too much, cause that would just cost lotsa bandwidth, and that would in turn probably reverse this change. :D

I second that opinon, mostly because word-of-mouth + massive growth is one of the principal factors that killed Danbooru the first time. The set-up of the site is somewhat different now, images hosted differently, etc, so hopefully it will scale better this time around.

surasshu said:
pluggedbus, don't spread the word too much, cause that would just cost lotsa bandwidth, and that would in turn probably reverse this change. :D

You don't understand. I liked this site back when I could browse it without thinking of it as a minefield. In other words, I WANT this latest change to be reversed.

pluggedbus said: You don't understand. I liked this site back when I could browse it without thinking of it as a minefield. In other words, I WANT this latest change to be reversed.

So, basically, because you might see some things you don't want to see (which you should know to expect on any imageboard), you are actively trying to drive up bandwidth costs and restrict all other uninvited users.

You, sir, are an asshole.

How about just, you know, asking Albert to implement blacklisting for uninvited users? And if it already works for them, how about just using it?

jxh2154 said:
So, basically, because you might see some things you don't want to see (which you should know to expect on any imageboard), you are actively trying to drive up bandwidth costs and restrict all other uninvited users.

You, sir, are an asshole.

How about just, you know, asking Albert to implement blacklisting for uninvited users? And if it already works for them, how about just using it?

Haha. The blacklist is a highly imperfect system because of the slop job so many users do when tagging. I can blacklist everything bad that can be blacklisted and still find hundreds if not thousands of NWS pics because of negligent tagging. However, people do a much better job at the difference between "questionable" and "safe" because that relies completely on common sense.

pluggedbus said:
I can blacklist everything bad that can be blacklisted and still find hundreds if not thousands of NWS pics because of negligent tagging.

A complicating problem is the fact that "questionable" is the default, and often never gets changed to an appropriate rating. This is a problem that has been known since the rating system was implemented. If you blacklisted rating:e and rating:q though, you should still get the results you want

pluggedbus said: The blacklist is a highly imperfect system because of the slop job so many users do when tagging.

If you don't even want to see questionable, then why does this matter at all? If you were to blacklist questionable, you'd be exactly back where you were before he opened it up.

Shinjidude said:
A complicating problem is the fact that "questionable" is the default, and often never gets changed to an appropriate rating. This is a problem that has been known since the rating system was implemented. If you blacklisted rating:e and rating:q though, you should still get the results you want

That explains why I sometimes thought "How is this questionable? Shouldn't this be in "Safe"? However, blacklisting stuff like "rating:q" doesn't do anything.

jxh2154 said:
If you don't even want to see questionable, then why does this matter at all? If you were to blacklist questionable, you'd be exactly back where you were before he opened it up.

I just tried what you suggested it didn't work. Will you people please stop lying?

pluggedbus said: I just tried what you suggested it didn't work. Will you people please stop lying?

Will you please start reading?

"How about just, you know, asking Albert to implement blacklisting for uninvited users? And if it already works for them, how about just using it?"

If it doesn't work, ASK ALBERT TO IMPLEMENT IT. Or submit a trac. Or do *anything* more constructive than bitch and moan and talk about how you want to drive Albert's bandwidth bills up until he reverts back to the old way, thus screwing the 99% of members who DO want to see the images.

pluggedbus said:
I just tried what you suggested it didn't work. Will you people please stop lying?

It's not so much lying as not realizing things didn't work they way you thought they did. I don't use blacklists myself, but I just tried it and you're right it doesn't work. Probably metatags aren't allowed in the blacklist.

You can just search with "rating:s" in your search, or while you browse. That should work for now, until a better solution is developed.

pluggedbus said:
You don't understand. I liked this site back when I could browse it without thinking of it as a minefield. In other words, I WANT this latest change to be reversed.

It was already a minefield when it was safe-only. What's the difference? :D

With the new System, less people will post images, because they don't need to be privileged anymore...

If they want to beat off to lolis sticking carrots where they don't belong, they will still have to be privileged, since that's explicit material.

And if they're the kind of uploader who only uploads to become privileged, well... That's not a significant contribution to this site (most privileged people have submitted thousands of images, from what I've seen). Aside from being kinda cheap, no matter how you look at it.

So, in short, maybe one or two, but not significantly so.

But--I'm privileged now. I don't give a shit if albert changes it back. :D I'm just saying there's no significant difference, other than the ability to see more of the content this site has to offer.

I don't upload to be privileged, i upload for fun, and to do my part for the community.
If I would upload to become privileged, i would upload 16 images per day, which i don't.

Sorry for my english, I'm not used to it.

Yeah, sorry about switching from "they" to "you" there, I wasn't really intending to target you as one of those guys. I edited that out. :)

surasshu said:
(most privileged people have submitted thousands of images, from what I've seen).

Sadly, most users don't contribute. ~93% of all users and ~51% of privileged members haven't posted a single picture. Maybe that's because there are so many new members now, but I don't think it will change much.

wakken said: With the new System, less people will post images, because they don't need to be privileged anymore...

Really, people that upload a few quick images ONLY to get privileged probably aren't uploading much that's worthwhile anyway. No loss, if you ask me.

On the whole, Danbooru certainly isn't lacking for images. The amount of time each day I spend saving stuff... it's already absurd =P

Shinjidude said:
It's not so much lying as not realizing things didn't work they way you thought they did. I don't use blacklists myself, but I just tried it and you're right it doesn't work. Probably metatags aren't allowed in the blacklist.

You can just search with "rating:s" in your search, or while you browse. That should work for now, until a better solution is developed.

That works. Thank you very much.