Tag alias/implication discussion

@albert: Closing the thread. If you have a...

2008-11-03T18:00:22-05:00

Closing the thread. If you have a question/issue create a new topic.

@葉月: > Quess said: > Lock thread, copy unresolved...

2008-11-03T14:28:03-05:00

Quess said:
Lock thread, copy unresolved issues and start a new thread?

I'd rather have people open new threads instead of following up in this (and other monster ones). Less manual work for me.

@スラッシュ: If I tie you up, it's not necessarily bondage. ...

2008-11-03T04:34:02-05:00

If I tie you up, it's not necessarily bondage.

If I use a ballgag on a girl, it's bondage but not tied_up.

They're pretty strongly related, but there are situations where one applies and the other may not.

@NWF_Renim: > 7HS said: > Is there some difference between...

2008-11-03T04:06:34-05:00

7HS said:
Is there some difference between tied up and bondage?

I think tied up used to be an alias for bondage but was removed...uh... maybe. Well anyway, it doesn't have to always be bondage to be tied up, since bondage usually carries sexual connotations with it. There is also a more used tied tag as well.

@Quess: Lock thread, copy unresolved issues and start a...

2008-11-03T00:21:20-05:00

Lock thread, copy unresolved issues and start a new thread?

@葉月: > T5J8F8 said: > Under the...

2008-11-03T00:15:34-05:00

T5J8F8 said:
Under the same-world/same-characters 'clause', should DBZ and DBGT implicate DB (and/or DBZ, in GT's case)?

DB yes, DBZ not really, they're all different series of a bigger merchandise called DB; DBGT is not a series of DBZ.

Also, can we please not have such monster threads with vaguely defined topics? It's impossible to follow threads with 255 replies, spanning 5 months.

@NeverGonnaGive: Under the same-world/same-characters 'clause',...

2008-11-03T00:07:29-05:00

Under the same-world/same-characters 'clause', should DBZ and DBGT implicate DB (and/or DBZ, in GT's case)?

@7HS: Is there some difference between tied up and...

2008-11-03T00:02:42-05:00

Is there some difference between tied up and bondage?

@SHUMA-GORATH: Ah, this someone missed my eye, I'm not sure if...

2008-11-02T19:46:48-05:00

Ah, this someone missed my eye, I'm not sure if I should copypaste what I said the the JP-EN topic or not but.

Some of these changes back the JPN name just seems kind of pointless. Like memegui said "We're supposed to generally recognize the tags." Only the most hardcore and anal otaku (or "weaboo" if you must use such a dumb term) will get some of these changes.

@NeverGonnaGive: > jxh2154 said: > It's doubly confusing because...

2008-11-02T19:14:32-05:00

jxh2154 said:
It's doubly confusing because the pokemon wiki page still explicitly says to use the english name for the creatures themselves.

... dammit! I feel quite lame (esp. after making posts in other threads dealing with the subject).

@jxh2154: > memegui said: So we're going to be forced to...

2008-11-02T13:54:33-05:00

memegui said: So we're going to be forced to have the japanese pokemon names no one knows about after all?

I thought we had decided *not* to accept those aliases. I wonder when and why Albert changed his mind.

It's doubly confusing because the pokemon wiki page still explicitly says to use the english name for the creatures themselves.

@memegui: So we're going to be forced to have the...

2008-11-02T13:44:06-05:00

So we're going to be forced to have the japanese pokemon names no one knows about after all? Alias pokemon to pocket_monsters while you're at it. Really, what's the point with following this policy to the letter every time? Danbooru isn't an encyclopedia, it's a service - We're supposed to generally recognize the tags. What's wrong with castlevania, or darkstalkers, or resident_evil, or spice_and_wolf, or neon_genesis_evangelion?
Aliasing castlevania to akumajo_dracula is like aliasing higurashi to when_they_cry or detective_conan to case_closed. They are rarely called that way by "us".
Yeah this should be generally dealt like usual, but it shouldn't be an iron rule in particular cases like these.

@Ephyon: Bringing back an issue with Pokemon, I think...

2008-11-02T13:37:03-05:00

Bringing back an issue with Pokemon, I think one of the character aliases was a bit hasty.

-Green_(pokemon)->Gary Oak (Or whatever the heck he's called in Japanese) is passable since there's practically no visual difference between the two (Personality aside). This is the case with most of the Pokemon Special versions, so there shouldn't be a problem. However...

-red_(pokemon)->satoshi_(pokemon) seems like way too much. While they are somewhat equivalent in the sense of "being the main character in a pokemon instalment" and general ensemble of clothing, I think there's enough aesthetic difference to split the two, nevermind how completely different they are as characters.

And yeah, I'll throw in my two cents as for the whole pokemon monster alliases. The general EN->JP policy is well known, but is that really a good idea to leave people scratching their heads as to what the tags mean? I've fixed a couple undertagged posts and have had to double-check just to see if I got everything, because as soon as I saved the changes, I was at a loss as to what exactly I had just written and what I had missed since I could no longer recognize the names.

What I'm saying is, while I agree we should respect policy, isn't this just pointless obscuring of meaning? "Fucking with the posters heads" doesn't really seem very productive. A lot of people can tell that Satoshi=Ash simply from general weeabooism, but do you people actually recognize the pokemon Spear?

@juunigatsu_no_usagi: i spell it mustache. i see no reason to be...

2008-11-01T23:02:30-04:00

i spell it mustache.
i see no reason to be fancy with it.

@jxh2154: > T5J8F8 said: H'h, that's... extremely...

2008-11-01T21:15:08-04:00

T5J8F8 said: H'h, that's... extremely weird... who the hell looks at "mustache" and takes it seriously?

Doesn't seem weird to me. I think that's how I always have seen it spelled, and how I've spelled it myself.

@NeverGonnaGive: H'h, that's... extremely weird... who the hell...

2008-11-01T21:04:46-04:00

H'h, that's... extremely weird... who the hell looks at "mustache" and takes it seriously? Looks like mustard. Bah, but the point stands against me, I suppose. *grumblegrumble*

@NWF_Renim: Well I think it depends on which is more...

2008-11-01T19:34:48-04:00

Well I think it depends on which is more commonly used in English, its usage in other languages I think would be irrelevant to a English website. I think official sources favor mustache over moustache (evident by the fact that firefox's spell check is labeling moustache as a misspelled word as I type this). The Merriam-websiter and American Heritage dictionaries use mustache as the primary variant, linking moustache with a simple "see mustache for definition" setup. Additionally Encyclopedia Britannica also favors mustache over moustache.

@NeverGonnaGive: May I request that the moustache->mustache...

2008-11-01T18:50:35-04:00

May I request that the moustache->mustache aliasing be reversed? I believe the "ou"-variant is more common, and, if Wikipedia is to be believed, is how it's spelled in French, automatically making it more common among languages.

@LaC: Yes, a bunny girl is not a kemonomimi.

2008-10-30T16:56:42-04:00

Yes, a bunny girl is not a kemonomimi.

@Shinjidude: bunny girl might be a special case though,...

2008-10-30T05:36:44-04:00

bunny girl might be a special case though, since they are most likely to be fake (i.e. just a costume) à la Playboy. I'm not sure if that makes them distinct enough for special treatment, but it's worth considering.