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Tag discussion: stomach, belly vs midriff

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In what looks like predominantly the work of one user (probably not malicious), stomach is an ambiguous tag; the contents are kind of a confused jumble, consisting:

  • the majority of posts are in the colloquial sense of the word, basically exposed midriffs
  • a small portion are vore, i.e. "inside the stomach". -- search: stomach vore
  • a couple of posts actually refer to the organ: -- search: stomach anatomy

a)
The first category might seem redundant with midriff, but for some reason, midriff wiki specifies not to use the tag "if the character is topless, naked, or wearing only underwear or a bikini." Can someone explain the justification behind this seemingly arbitrary restriction to midriff? Normal English usage of the word simply refers to the region of the torso and does not distinguish between what kind of clothes are worn; in particular, "exposed midriff" is still accurate usage in the case of swimsuits/bikinis/underwear only.

If we can discard the distinction between exposed midriffs that are clothed vs. partially clothed vs. fully naked, then most of these stomach posts would be better tagged as midriff.

If midriff remains in its current limited definition, then I would suggest abdomen in place of stomach to avoid ambiguity with the internal organ. In this case, an implication midriff->abdomen may be appropriate as well.

b)
The vore posts are easy -- they should probably just be moved to inside_creature

c)
The last category of anatomy-related posts may be better served as stomach_(organ), for disambiguation purposes. (c.f. heart_(organ))

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As for belly, its wiki definition suggests that:

However the wiki for midriff does not specify this, and the current tag usage does include plenty of examples that are plump.
Hence, I'd argue that belly is a pointless tag that should be subsumed as the search midriff plump.

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(Note to self: when resolved, update tag group:body parts)

r0d3n7z said:

As for belly, its wiki definition suggests that:

However the wiki for midriff does not specify this, and the current tag usage does include plenty of examples that are plump.

The second line of the belly wiki was wrong and not discussed. I removed it. Midriff can apply to plump midriffs as well.

r0d3n7z said:

Hence, I'd argue that belly is a pointless tag that should be subsumed as the search midriff plump.

Belly can apply to topless/naked characters, midriff can't.

r0d3n7z said:

So, majority of stomach ought to be sorted into midriff or belly depending on clothed status?

Belly has the additional requirement that the abdomen must be "somewhat plump". If a character is nude/topless, and their abdomen is not plump, then they wouldn't fit under either midriff or belly.

Also, midriff and belly are not mutually exclusive. If an abdomen is plump and it has clothes above and below it, it can get both midriff and belly tagged on it.

I let this sit for a while but I guess there's not a lot of interest.

I took care of the vore posts and moved them to inside_creature.
The anatomy posts are stomach_(organ)

Tags for the region of the torso, with specific requirements:

Left stomach as status quo. Presumably it is any post where that region of the torso is exposed, but without specific requirements -- which suggests it could serve as an umbrella tag for the more specific tags above -- but there are no implications in place for that to be the case. The tag itself isn't used consistently, and the wiki isn't very helpful either. I still think abdomen is a better word choice than the ambiguous stomach, but whatevs. *shrug*

r0d3n7z said:

I still think abdomen is a better word choice than the ambiguous stomach, but whatevs. *shrug*

I agree. Stomach should be moved to abdomen and left as a disambiguation page pointing to the various other tags it can refer to.

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