ToS Discussion Thread

@tapnek: Once the tag gigantic breasts is pointed out,...

2016-08-13T21:29:09-04:00

Once the tag gigantic breasts is pointed out, it's ready to be deployed.

@albert: You are correct, really that should just be...

2016-08-13T21:21:00-04:00

You are correct, really that should just be categorized under the appropriate breast tag. I'll change it.

@lkjh098: > albert said: > > If there are no further...

2016-08-13T19:35:17-04:00

albert said:

If there are no further issues these are revised rules I will deploy soon:

http://testbooru.donmai.us/static/terms_of_service

One minor question. Under "grotesque", it says that it includes pictures with breasts larger than three heads in size, and to please use the guro tag. Is guro really appropriate for e.g. post #2131854?

@albert: If there are no further issues these are...

2016-08-11T19:19:29-04:00

If there are no further issues these are revised rules I will deploy soon:

http://testbooru.donmai.us/static/terms_of_service

@Hillside_Moose: > albert said: > > The artifact rules were...

2016-08-02T23:24:00-04:00

albert said:

The artifact rules were devised in an age when most of the art here was uploaded from other image boards who were prone to resizing and recompressing the original image. Granted Twitter does this too, but it's a different story when the artist is doing it and you can determine with some certainty if you'll ever see a high quality alternative. A poorly compressed image is better than no image sometimes.

Not sure if anyone remembers aerisdies, but images hosted there would take a dump in quality on top of having an ugly watermark, and people would take the images there and upload them here. That's where the rule comes from.

@Kikimaru: +1 to @albert post.

2016-07-30T15:40:45-04:00

+1 to @albert post.

@albert: Artists can upload high quality versions to...

2016-07-28T13:34:02-04:00

Artists can upload high quality versions to Twitter and you can download it if they do. But it seems many don't. A lot of artists seem to use Twitter to release in progress work with the final version being uploaded to Pixiv or Nico Seiga, but this isn't always true. Even if they do have accounts on other services they may end up not uploading a high quality version at all.

Knowing this, it makes sense to just upload the Twitter version (unless the artifacting is especially egregious) and just be on the lookout for a higher quality version and link the two.

The artifact rules were devised in an age when most of the art here was uploaded from other image boards who were prone to resizing and recompressing the original image. Granted Twitter does this too, but it's a different story when the artist is doing it and you can determine with some certainty if you'll ever see a high quality alternative. A poorly compressed image is better than no image sometimes.

My personal practice is to check if the artist has a history of uploading high quality versions consistently. If they do, I don't bother uploading the Twitter version.

My vote is to change the rules to discourage uploading compression artifact images but to not explicitly ban it.

@user_460797: post #2435149 This has to do with the TOS...

2016-07-27T21:00:29-04:00

post #2435149
This has to do with the TOS discussion.
The TOS now state:

The following may be uploaded but are generally not recommended unless a better copy cannot be found:
-Poorly compressed: Any image where compression artifacts are easily visible.

Now the page that comes up when flagging a post:

If you believe a post does not belong on this site, you can flag for its deletion. As a reminder, the following are some common reasons for flagging a post:
Poor compression: JPEG artifacts

This does not fit together.
The flag page says: Flag all Twitter posts, since they all have jpeg artifacts. Doesn't fit on how this page operates until today. Except one single Twitter post (I mentioned it above) gets flagged.
But there is no better copy yet. So why flagging it then?
And also what makes @OOZ662 post scratch my head is that they say:

Poor Compression is one of the examples listed for flagging a post.

Well, it's right. If we go what this flag page says. But this isn't stated in the TOS like this.

So the question is (and I thought it is covered by this post forum #106513. At the very beginning, so reading the whole piece isn't neccessary. And forum #106535 is also pretty clear. After these posts, I think this topic wasn't discused anymore, until now:
Are the TOS rules or are they just guidelines that conveniently contradict other guidelines like in this case?

@user_460797: Shouldn't the TOS be updated for nude filter as...

2016-07-20T06:37:55-04:00

Shouldn't the TOS be updated for nude filter as the administration said in topic #12657?
Because right now, the TOS' structure would still allow to upload them.

@Kikimaru: about:mod queue contains a link to...

2015-08-16T13:38:22-04:00

about:mod queue contains a link to howto:danbooru (Return to the Terms of Service and Moderation
); should the link be changed to about:on-topic?

@tapnek: It's as allowed as it was before.

2015-08-07T15:25:26-04:00

It's as allowed as it was before.

@user_201502: > * 2.89.0: You can now upload furry and...

2015-08-07T15:10:26-04:00

2.89.0: You can now upload furry and grotesque art, but it will be subject to higher standards, and they must be tagged appropriately

2.89.0: You can now upload watermarked, poorly compressed, and nude filter images, but they are discouraged and the original uncompressed artwork is preferred

So shitposting is officially allowed now, huh?

@buehbueh: I started a thread (topic #11956) for defining...

2015-08-07T13:21:43-04:00

I started a thread (topic #11956) for defining what that page should have, so we don't water down the ToS discussion.

@tapnek: > fossilnix said: > > How about...

2015-08-06T23:38:59-04:00

fossilnix said:

How about about:on-topic?

Yeah, that should do.

@fossilnix: > Hoobajoob said: > > I really think this...

2015-08-06T21:58:27-04:00

Hoobajoob said:

I really think this change is a huge mistake.

The rules shouldn't change to accommodate the actions of the users. Thats's backwards. The actions of the users should change to accommodate the rules.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. Users change their upload habits to fit in to the community by following its rules. At the same time, the community adjusts the rules to work better for its members. There's nothing abnormal or wrong about this.

wareya said:

It's referring to commercial/for-profit works.

If that's the case, then I think the ToS should be changed to specifically say that.

@Kikimaru: I like the new updated rules.

2015-08-06T21:52:41-04:00

I like the new updated rules.

@Hoobajoob: I really think this change is a huge mistake. ...

2015-08-06T21:17:35-04:00

I really think this change is a huge mistake.

The rules shouldn't change to accommodate the actions of the users. Thats's backwards. The actions of the users should change to accommodate the rules.

@wareya: It's referring to commercial/for-profit works.

2015-08-06T19:30:03-04:00

It's referring to commercial/for-profit works.

@fossilnix: I noticed that the ToS still prohibits...

2015-08-06T19:21:38-04:00

I noticed that the ToS still prohibits manga/doujinshi:

Manga: Uploading entire manga or doujinshi chapters is discouraged. Individual pages can be uploaded if they meet the quality criterion.

Does this apply only to scans, or also to chapters that have been uploaded to Pixiv? The latter are pretty common uploads here, and if they have a different status, I think it should be specified.

tapnek said:

Maybe I should have edited the ToS to reflect on that, but I was already thinking of making that wiki page on what's on-topic and what's not. Just need a good title.

How about about:on-topic?

@tapnek: Maybe I should have edited the ToS to reflect...

2015-08-06T18:24:58-04:00

Maybe I should have edited the ToS to reflect on that, but I was already thinking of making that wiki page on what's on-topic and what's not. Just need a good title.