Tag implication: the_pose -> barefoot

@EB: > feline_lump said: > > and barefoot or feet...

2017-05-23T23:50:02-04:00

feline_lump said:

and barefoot or feet as appropriate

Don't forget no shoes, if applicable.

@feline_lump: I agree with the people saying to drop the tag....

2017-05-23T17:15:21-04:00

I agree with the people saying to drop the tag. the_pose is a tag that myopically interprets a common modelling pose, and hence causes confusion. There are quite a few posts tagged with the_pose where the central character is wearing legwear or shoes, since the barefoot fetishism is only intuitive if you actually have that fetish.

Leaving a note on the wiki and replacing it with legs_up, on_stomach, and barefoot or feet as appropriate seems like the most reasonable solution for now. That would result in both less confusion for the general userbase and more frequent and accurate tagging for the foot fetishists.

@user_509825: Uh, bumping this topic. I've removed the...

2017-05-23T13:57:53-04:00

Uh, bumping this topic.
I've removed the the_pose from the post @Hillside_Moose linked, because lying on stomach is a pretty clear action and it doesn't seem to be the case here. I also didn't think of adding the tag when I uploaded that image.

@Hillside_Moose: Is post #2387457 still considered the_pose...

2016-09-20T01:06:29-04:00

Is post #2387457 still considered the_pose despite not actually lying on anything? If not, then the implication can go through.

@user_441999: create implication the_pose -> on_stomach Link...

2016-09-15T11:51:36-04:00

create implication the_pose -> on_stomach

Link to request

Because I don't see how this one was actually rejected? All the arguments that led to the rejection of the previous proposal were about barefoot. This one is just proposing one pose tag to implicate another pose tag.

@NWF_Renim: The bulk update request #698 has been rejected....

2016-05-23T19:40:05-04:00

The bulk update request #698 has been rejected.

As stated it's a replacement for a multi-tag search, and combining pose tags with an outfit tag (or lack of a specific garment) into one tag doesn't make to me. It should either be combing pose tags or combining garment tags, but not both.

@iridescent_slime: Bringing this back up since it's been a couple...

2016-05-23T08:52:43-04:00

Bringing this back up since it's been a couple weeks without any discussion. The tradition here has always been to reject tags and pools that serve only to replace a multi-tag search, and that's precisely what the pose does. Anyone wanting to search for on_stomach legs_up can already do so and those wanting a more specific search than that are just $20 away.

@user_460797: We can do things much simpler by approving this...

2016-05-07T12:57:42-04:00

We can do things much simpler by approving this one here. One tag against two tags. That it is called the pose doesn't make it a pose. It's a posture (on stomach +leg(s) up) combined with attire (barefoot/no legwear). You're rejecting it because of an unlicky chosen name, the purpose still remain, though, since if one knows about this, it's clear what the searcher is about to get.

@NWF_Renim: Doesn't change that a pose shouldn't be bound...

2016-05-07T12:30:53-04:00

Doesn't change that a pose shouldn't be bound by their attire.

Using a tag to cover multiple tags should be more of a consideration that it is binding like tags, such as combining 3 or more articles of clothing or combining 3 or more physical traits together.

There really isn't a need for this tag, bare feet account for over 50% of the results of on_stomach legs_up and someone looking for these kinds of posts won't have a hard time finding them amongst the results of this 2 tag search.

@Nitrogen09: > NWF_Renim said: > > I'm currently leaning on...

2016-05-07T12:28:18-04:00

NWF_Renim said:

I'm currently leaning on rejecting these implications based on Nitrogen09's example. A pose should not be bound by the character's attire, so whether they wear shoes or not should not be a consideration on whether this tag is or isn't applicable.

I think not wearing any legwear as a requirement is necessary though, otherwise, this tag and on_stomach legs_up would basically become the same thing.

@NWF_Renim: I'm currently leaning on rejecting these...

2016-05-07T12:19:44-04:00

I'm currently leaning on rejecting these implications based on Nitrogen09's example. A pose should not be bound by the character's attire, so whether they wear shoes or not should not be a consideration on whether this tag is or isn't applicable.

@user_460797: > EB said: > > What is "feet up" for, anyway?...

2016-04-29T01:29:27-04:00

EB said:

What is "feet up" for, anyway? It seems redundant. "Leg(s) up" is better as the feet (as we can see in one post linked already) are not always visible.

Probably yes, when you ask back^^. Maybe I'll change it to leg(s) up on the weekend.

@EB: > Provence said: > > and maybe legs up (I'd...

2016-04-28T17:28:43-04:00

Provence said:

and maybe legs up (I'd rather use feet up for those, but that's not so important.

What is "feet up" for, anyway? It seems redundant. "Leg(s) up" is better as the feet (as we can see in one post linked already) are not always visible.

@user_460797: > Nitrogen09 said: > > +1 for on_stomach, but...

2016-04-28T04:44:49-04:00

Nitrogen09 said:

+1 for on_stomach, but sometimes the character's feet aren't visible in the image (post #2301968).

Also, should post #2270437 be tagged with the_pose ? The character in this one is clearly wearing shoes.

Well, if the feet are not visible, then it seems that this tag can't apply. I added this to my upload wit Yuudachi because I thought I can see a bit of her feet, but this isn't the case here. So I strike out both tags (barefoot + the pose)
As for the second: The definition says they have to be bare, so noc legwear, boots or other footwear.

@Nitrogen09: +1 for on_stomach, but sometimes the...

2016-04-28T04:39:50-04:00

+1 for on_stomach, but sometimes the character's feet aren't visible in the image (post #2301968).

Also, should post #2270437 be tagged with the_pose ? The character in this one is clearly wearing shoes.

@Kikimaru: > Provence said: > > Dropping it? > Hmm, this...

2016-04-28T04:30:05-04:00

Provence said:

Dropping it?
Hmm, this tag seems to require 3 tags. At least.
On stomach, barefoot and maybe legs up (I'd rather use feet up for those, but that's not so important. And on stomach + legs doesn't say, that the chara has bare feet :P.
So having a tag tht reduces three tags to one is not that bad. And if the name sounds "stupid" is not a really good reason.

I concur.

@user_460797: Dropping it? Hmm, this tag seems to require 3...

2016-04-27T20:59:04-04:00

Dropping it?
Hmm, this tag seems to require 3 tags. At least.
On stomach, barefoot and maybe legs up (I'd rather use feet up for those, but that's not so important. And on stomach + legs doesn't say, that the chara has bare feet :P.
So having a tag tht reduces three tags to one is not that bad. And if the name sounds "stupid" is not a really good reason.

@fossilnix: > Gollgagh said: > > Stepping back a bit, "the...

2016-04-27T20:54:51-04:00

Gollgagh said:

Stepping back a bit, "the pose" is a really terrible tag name. (I feel like we nuked it before)

It's completely undescriptive and its wiki references nothing other than the author's word.

topic #11884

@user_460797: I have no idea where this derives from, but it...

2016-04-27T20:39:56-04:00

I have no idea where this derives from, but it seems that this term is used.
Just googling this term gives me pics of exact that pose.

@Gollgagh: Stepping back a bit, "the pose" is a really...

2016-04-27T20:25:39-04:00

Stepping back a bit, "the pose" is a really terrible tag name. (I feel like we nuked it before)

It's completely undescriptive and its wiki references nothing other than the author's word.