[Prototype] User Report Ver 6.1

@skylightcrystal: > BrokenEagle98 said: > > Sorry about that,...

2019-12-10T14:14:21-05:00

BrokenEagle98 said:

Sorry about that, it's mostly an automated process, but the final compilation and uploading is all manual so it only gets done when I remember without being distracted by something else.

Anyways, it's updated now.

Thanks

@BrokenEagle98: > skylightcrystal said: > > Is this going to...

2019-12-10T14:12:34-05:00

skylightcrystal said:

Is this going to be updated?

Sorry about that. It's mostly an automated process, but the final compilation and uploading is all manual so it only gets done when I remember without being distracted by something else.

Anyways, it's updated now.

@skylightcrystal: Is this going to be updated?

2019-12-10T12:58:48-05:00

Is this going to be updated?

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@BrokenEagle98: > fossilnix said: > > How is the keeper report...

2018-07-06T22:48:15-04:00

fossilnix said:

How is the keeper report calculated? In June I added tags to a bunch of old minimally-tagged posts, but they aren't showing on the report. Does it only count posts uploaded recently?

It currently only checks uploads during the checked period (i.e. June 1st - June 30th).

Early on I started going down the rabbit hole of wanting to account for older uploads, but then that meant looking up the post data for every single post version during that same period. That would require at least an order of magnitude more time as there are about 200K+ post versions in a month compared to only 30K+ uploads. However, it's not as simple as just getting the post data, as it must also be ascertained on whether THAT particular post version was what changed the ownership so as to not count the same post multiple times for the same user or for the wrong time period. This means getting ALL of the post versions for that post (since the keeper calculations use the tag contributions from every user along with who added a tag first), which in some cases could increase the order of magnitude by another factor or two of time to query and calculate.

TL;DR it's at least 100-1000 times slower, and it was still having issues, so I decided to just scrap it and only account for posts over the checked time period.

@fossilnix: How is the keeper report calculated? In June I...

2018-07-06T22:25:22-04:00

How is the keeper report calculated? In June I added tags to a bunch of old minimally-tagged posts, but they aren't showing on the report. Does it only count posts uploaded recently?

@AngryZapdos: https://i.imgur.com/bN2bcyX.png In case you...

2018-07-06T18:25:18-04:00

https://i.imgur.com/bN2bcyX.png

In case you were wondering Squishy, no, that's not normal.

@BrokenEagle98: Latest Update* (2018-07-04) * Updated data for...

2018-07-06T18:16:24-04:00

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~~Just realized I forgot to compare the data versus the prior month. >_< Will probably have it up in half an hour or so.~~

...and done!

@chilled_sake: > Squishy said: > > That's a torso bend, not a...

2018-07-06T17:24:27-04:00

Squishy said:

That's a torso bend, not a torso twist?

And how come your line goes from the front of the neck to the sternum's ventral side, and then directly connects from there to the dorsal side of the sacrum by cutting through upper anterior of the waist toward the posterior of the pelvis, completely disregarding the suggested alignment of the waist as indicated by the waist bow?

I'm pretty sure that line does not represent the spine nor the body's vertical axis due its shift along sagittal plane. And that abrupt bend from the chest doesn't even follow the curve of her posture, not to mention the lack of any rotation going on. This does not help me understand your reasoning at all.

Since you apparently have a much more expansive of scientific knowledge of human anatomy why don't you please draw how her spine should look?

@Squishy: As much as I respect you, nonamethanks, I'm...

2018-07-06T17:03:09-04:00

As much as I respect you, nonamethanks, I'm going to have to defend myself against some ridiculous accusations.

That's a lot of buzzwords for terrible anatomy. Her right leg is detached from the rest of the body, there's no way to justify that stuff with perspective.

Thank you! I already know that.
But can you tell me where that torso twist is? Can you help me understand what that diagram is supposed to show me?

Sorry but it was already hard to take you seriously on anatomy when you argued against every single flag on the matter under comments.

That's a pretty daring accusation. You got any numbers for that?
Have I been in 'every single flag' on this matter? Given the amount of flags issued on a daily basis and how many of them proceeded without issue, I would appreciate some concrete numbers to show my level of participation.

Now that apollyon has promoted you just so you could reapprove his bad uploads it's even harder, especially given the kind of "art" in approver:Squishy user:Apollyon.

If there are people whose purpose is to reapprove one person's uploads, I'm certainly not one of them user:Apollyon -approver:Squishy

As NWSiaCB put it in post #2709690 nobody's buying the concerned citizen act.

You do realize there was misunderstanding there, right?
He thought I was talking about users with unlimited uploads privileges, which I wasn't, nor had he said anything about me putting on some kind of 'act'.

I'm not sure how you got the 'concerned citizen' angle from either of us, but I'll extend the same offer to you as well: I'll be happy to share the details of what I was doing at the time and I would appreciate any feedback on my reasoning. Via Dmail.

It's also pretty funny that you'd complain about being targeted, given how several of the posts you went to reapprove that were immediately reflagged had already been flagged three or four times before.

Where did I say I was being targeted? If so, did I accuse anyone specifically?
Did I mention anything about approvals or flags here at all? Did anyone else?

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For the record, all I did in this thread was mention my personal experience regarding downvotes on my uploads correlating with what the report was showing. I did not name or call out anyone. I did not play victim by complaining about conspiracies or about being targeted. I said nothing about the approval process and the usage of flagging either.

I'm not sure why I'm getting lectured here, instead of having a discussing about the potential uses and pitfalls of the Downvote Report.
I'll gladly talk about that, but I will not respond to any further derails directed at me.
If there's something anyone needs bring up with me: My Dmails are open (and I have icecream to share)

feline_lump said:

Going through the dataset a bit, many of the high confidence matches don't seem to be catching downvote rings as originally intended, but rather cases of uploaders posting a large volume of content that others find objectionable. The Catloaf et al. case mentioned before is against a user who posted dozens of extreme inflation/insect birth pictures, and another one shows up against a user who was self-uploading cosplay photosets. It's reasonable to assume that these would catch the attention of people who otherwise rarely feel the need to use the downvote feature.

I concur, the downvote report would not show why people are downvoting. Of course, it was never meant to.
I think it's a useful tool that would form a part of a more holistic process.

Probably need to also look at what the uploader was doing. I suspect uploaders who were posting self-uploads, cosplays and third-party edits would rack up downvotes pretty quickly.
And a glance at some of these uploaders reveal they were posting off-topic or controversial subject matter: I would agree with people who downvoting users like fisherprize or Johny2dixCZ

@feline_lump: Going through the dataset a bit, many of the...

2018-07-06T16:21:11-04:00

Going through the dataset a bit, many of the high confidence matches don't seem to be catching downvote rings as originally intended, but rather cases of uploaders posting a large volume of content that others find objectionable. The Catloaf et al. case mentioned before is against a user who posted dozens of extreme inflation/insect birth pictures, and another one shows up against a user who was self-uploading cosplay photosets. It's reasonable to assume that these would catch the attention of people who otherwise rarely feel the need to use the downvote feature.

@nonamethanks: > Squishy said: > > That's a torso bend, not a...

2018-07-06T08:49:23-04:00

Squishy said:

That's a torso bend, not a torso twist?

And how come your line goes from the front of the neck to the sternum's ventral side, and then directly connects from there to the dorsal side of the sacrum by cutting through upper anterior of the waist toward the posterior of the pelvis, completely disregarding the suggested alignment of the waist as indicated by the waist bow?

I'm pretty sure that line does not represent the spine nor the body's vertical axis due its shift along sagittal plane. And that abrupt bend from the chest doesn't even follow the curve of her posture, not to mention the lack of any rotation going on. This does not help me understand your reasoning at all.

That's a lot of buzzwords for terrible anatomy. Her right leg is detached from the rest of the body, there's no way to justify that stuff with perspective.

Sorry but it was already hard to take you seriously on anatomy when you argued against every single flag on the matter under comments. Now that apollyon has promoted you just so you could reapprove his bad uploads it's even harder, especially given the kind of "art" in approver:Squishy user:Apollyon. As NWSiaCB put it in post #2709690 nobody's buying the concerned citizen act.

It's also pretty funny that you'd complain about being targeted, given how several of the posts you went to reapprove that were immediately reflagged had already been flagged three or four times before.

@Squishy: > chinatsu said: > > No mate this is yours you...

2018-07-06T04:51:44-04:00

chinatsu said:

No mate this is yours you even just referenced it https://files.catbox.moe/crsyyx.png

That's a torso bend, not a torso twist?

And how come your line goes from the front of the neck to the sternum's ventral side, and then directly connects from there to the dorsal side of the sacrum by cutting through upper anterior of the waist toward the posterior of the pelvis, completely disregarding the suggested alignment of the waist as indicated by the waist bow?

I'm pretty sure that line does not represent the spine nor the body's vertical axis due its shift along sagittal plane. And that abrupt bend from the chest doesn't even follow the curve of her posture, not to mention the lack of any rotation going on. This does not help me understand your reasoning at all.

@chilled_sake: > Squishy said: > > I also don't recall...

2018-07-06T02:46:14-04:00

Squishy said:

I also don't recall uploading anything with twisted spines or torsos either, so you might have my uploads confused with someone elses?

No mate this is yours you even just referenced it https://files.catbox.moe/crsyyx.png

@Squishy: > Unbreakable said: > > No, it's approvers...

2018-07-06T01:03:03-04:00

Unbreakable said:

No, it's approvers only until shortly before the time is up.

Ah, okay. I thought I had access to something I wasn't supposed to, since another approver was asking why I could see that stuff.

@Unbreakable: > Squishy said: > > Correct me if I'm wrong,...

2018-07-06T00:44:47-04:00

Squishy said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but everyone can see how many moderators reviewed a pending post with a breakdown of Breaks Rules, Poor Quality and No Interest before the three days are up?

No, it's approvers only until shortly before the time is up.

@Squishy: > chinatsu said: > > Because I down voted your...

2018-07-06T00:34:40-04:00

chinatsu said:

Because I down voted your posts shouldn't tell you there is some conspiracy. If you're in want of an explanation for their poor quality it is because they have tiny hands or twisted spines. I do not keep up with the forum enough to answer to that thread.

Erm, I didn't say anything about a conspiracy or being targeted by a downvote ring. As I understand the report, there needs to be several people with similar voting patterns for case of such. I'm not talking about that, since I only show up once as a target.

I also don't recall uploading anything with twisted spines or torsos either, so you might have my uploads confused with someone elses?

How may I ask would you know these posts were marked as poor quality "within minutes" when rejection reasons are not public until the post is deleted?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but everyone can see how many moderators reviewed a pending post with a breakdown of Breaks Rules, Poor Quality and No Interest before the three days are up?