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-1. The use of skirt as a tag is for the individual stand-alone garment, but the word skirt can also refer to a component of a garmet, such as with a dress. In this case overskirt covers both those that are stand-alone and those that are components of a garment (such as post #1620548). Given this, the overskirt tag should not implicate the skirt tag.
I mean that is probably the same as in post #2335959. Is there really no specific word for this kind of attire? Overdress doesn't exist as a noun when I remember correctly.
This looks very different as post #2410844 which is definitely an overskirt.
Btw. I thought that overskirt are covering the legs. But the example you provided has an opening in the front. So this looks more like a showgirl skirt which also have this opening at the front.
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The overskirt tag from I recall when making it doesn't have a restriction on how much or how little it covers of the legs, as it is a essentially extra given that there is a garment beneath it. The tag though was intended for depictions like post #69365, post #508163, post #1629595, post #2171595, post #1620548, etc where it was clearly that you had a skirt or skirt-like garment overlaid over pants or another skirt.
The showgirl skirt and overskirt's difference (when they visually overlap) is that the showgirl skirt does not have another garment like pants/skirt beneath it. The difference should be this: overskirt post #1620042 versus showgirl skirt post #1813385.
I don't remember exactly why parts of it were defined a certain way, but as of right now if you have an issue with the definitions, there shouldn't be an issue to change the definition to have an image be both an overskirt and a showgirl skirt (first tag indicating configuration with other garments, second tag indicating the design). That though doesn't have any bearings on the skirt implication issue, as I don't think either tag would be appropriate to implicate the skirt tag.
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About the images you provided in the first paragraph: Aren't those waist capes? They look exactly the same when I search for this tag and also Google Images delivers this kind of images.
And also post #2422323 fron @zeparoh looks very similar to the row of images in the first paragraph.
E: Ok, I looked a bit further and it seems that all posts before post #1620548 are waist cape since they all start at the bottom half just like in the photo. But what does that make the last post? Is there really no other tag to express what that thing is?
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Waist cape doesn't have a definition, but in the past it seems to have been left up if the thing "looks like a cape" and starts at the waist, but given our cape definition that means that it should only cover the back then. So some of the examples I listed wouldn't count, as they either don't cover the back or they also cover part of the front.
NWF_Renim said:
Waist cape doesn't have a definition, but in the past it seems to have been left up if the thing "looks like a cape" and starts at the waist, but given our cape definition that means that it should only cover the back then. So some of the examples I listed wouldn't count, as they either don't cover the back or they also cover part of the front.
Well, at least I would have problems differenciating those tags if an overskirt does not essentially cover the front and can also go up to the top as in post #1620548. There seem to be a big overlap between the showgirl skirt, overskirt and the waist cape. So I think we need a definitive definition of those three tags first^^.
Well, imo a skirt should be round around the waist, if its front opening too much it become something else.
I prefer showgirl skirt and overskirt stand alone with skirt.
showgirl skirt = over-garment only covers the rear and sides, worn with leotard or swimsuit bottom
overskirt = over-garment worn with the rest (shorts, pants, skirts... ) and stick skirt / cape tag in whatever it looks like ( skirt post #508163 post #2410844, cape post #2286655 or none post #1620548 post #2335959 )
I used waist cape in post #2422323 and other 'cause *skirt's never cross my mind when I look at them (completely forget overskirt at that moment).
Waist cape's basically overskirt "cape-like" ~> Either merge it or implie it to overskirt is fine.
Sorry for my late reply! I got some crack bone from a crash, could't check DB past week.
There's one thing bugging me about this: how to search for an overskirt with no skirt underneath if the implication is made?
Like I mentioned, implying "skirt" will make certain searches harder, and I'm also reluctant to approve until waist_cape/overskirt madness is resolved. Rejected for now.
The tag implication overskirt -> skirt has been rejected.