Standing vs kneeling: Cowboy shot posts

@BrokenEagle98: Agree with evazion... and I would tag post...

2016-11-08T22:44:29-05:00

Agree with evazion... and I would tag post #2537204 with standing.

I also disagree that it is difficult to determine the posture of the body with cowboy shot. There's no confusing it with lying. If the artist is anyways decent, you can tell by the slight variations in the posture and how the hair and clothing falls. There's also no confusing it with kneeling IMHO. Straight-body kneeling is downright uncomfortable. Try it yourself. Even those situations where one might do this, there's still a slight bend to the hips because the top of the leg muscles are being stretched moreso than when standing due to the bend in the leg, making it very difficult not to mention uncomfortable to have the same angle between the torso and upper legs when standing. Along with the usual slight bend in the legs, there is also usually a reverse back extension to maintain balance.

Take post #2537412 for instance (which I also agree is kneeling). There is a 5-15% bend in her legs compared to her torso as would be expected, and to compensate her balance, there is a 5-15% reverse back extension.

@evazion: Sorry, but I do disagree. I feel the opposite,...

2016-11-08T16:09:50-05:00

Sorry, but I do disagree. I feel the opposite, I would want to see post #2537204 when searching for standing.

I try to include tag group:posture tags whenever reasonable (and I do think it's reasonable here), because composition and posing are usually what set a post apart from other posts of the same character. Many characters have thousands of posts where their appearance is the exact same, so if you only tag appearance there's nothing distinguishing between these posts in searches.

@user_460797: > iridescent_slime said: > > Generally...

2016-11-08T15:41:32-05:00

iridescent_slime said:

Generally speaking, I almost never use kneeling or standing in concert with cowboy shot. As you said, it's difficult, if not impossible, to tell for certain what position the subject is in. If I search for standing, I wouldn't want post #2537204 in the search results. Also, there's a possibility that the character isn't standing or kneeling; they might be lying.

Yes, I can agree with that, although I nearly always used standing with cowboy shot. I guess it could need a bit tag gardening work and wiki edits if no one disagrees?

@iridescent_slime: Generally speaking, I almost never use kneeling...

2016-11-08T15:36:38-05:00

Generally speaking, I almost never use kneeling or standing in concert with cowboy shot. As you said, it's difficult, if not impossible, to tell for certain what position the subject is in. If I search for standing, I wouldn't want post #2537204 in the search results. Also, there's a possibility that the character isn't standing or kneeling; they might be lying.

@user_460797: Hello :3. This has something to do with...

2016-11-08T15:22:31-05:00

Hello :3.
This has something to do with (mostly) cowboy shots and the two tags standing and kneeling. Because if there is a cowboy shot, one normally doesn't see the knees and therefore it is very difficult to tell if a person is standing or kneeling. One does normally only see the thighs.
Made me think because of post #2537412 where the person should be kneeling according to the tagger and I agree.
But if we have a post like post #2537204 one would assume that this character is standing, but the character could also be kneeling. So the question is if we should tag such posts without a context still with standing or with nothing, i.e. no standing or kneeling.

Any thoughts?