tag:danbooru.me,2005:/forum_topics/14630 Applicability of solo tag for non-humanoid characters 2017-10-31T00:00:02-04:00 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138459 2017-10-31T00:00:02-04:00 2017-10-31T00:00:02-04:00 @evazion: How minor characters interact with the solo tag... <p>How minor characters interact with the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo">solo</a> tag has been brought up multiple times in the past but never clearly resolved. See <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/2331">topic #2331</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/2413">topic #2413</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/6655">topic #6655</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/7553">topic #7553</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/9062">topic #9062</a> (keep in mind that <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo_focus">solo focus</a> didn't exist until this last topic).</p><p>Just counting everything with a character tag doesn't always work. Consider some more examples:</p><ul> <li>Dolls: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/alice_margatroid">Alice Margatroid</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/shanghai_doll">Shanghai Doll</a> / <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/hourai_doll">Hourai Doll</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/medicine_melancholy">Medicine Melancholy</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/su-san">Su-San</a>.</li> <li>Robot sidekicks: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/shimakaze_%28kantai_collection%29">Shimakaze</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/rensouhou-chan">Rensouhou-chan</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/mei_%28overwatch%29">Mei</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/snowball_%28overwatch%29">Snowball</a>.</li> <li>Non-human "accessory" characters: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/konpaku_youmu">Konpaku Youmu</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/myon" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">Myon</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/moriya_suwako">Suwako</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/pyonta">Pyonta</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/tatara_kogasa">Kogasa</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/tatara_kogasa_%28umbrella%29">Kogasa (umbrella)</a>.</li> <li>Named pets and animals: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/sakamoto_%28nichijou%29">Sakamoto</a> as mentioned above, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/ein_%28cowboy_bebop%29">Ein</a> from <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-3" href="/wiki_pages/cowboy_bebop">Cowboy Bebop</a>, etc.</li> <li>Human characters in animal form: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/kaenbyou_rin_%28cat%29">Kaenbyou Rin (cat)</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/reiuji_utsuho_%28bird%29">Reiuji Utsuho (bird)</a>.</li> <li>Human characters in non-human form: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/yukkuri_shiteitte_ne">Yukkuris</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sukusuku_hakutaku">Sukusuku Hakutaku</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/takoluka">Takoluka</a>, etc. Sometimes these are chartags, sometimes not.</li> <li> <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/pokemon_%28creature%29">Pokemon creatures</a>.</li> <li>Mecha: <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/souryuu_asuka_langley">Asuka</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/eva_02">EVA 02</a> (a chartag), <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/d.va_%28overwatch%29">D.Va</a> + <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/meka_%28overwatch%29">Meka</a> (not a chartag).</li> <li>Completely inanimate "characters": <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/weighted_companion_cube">Weighted Companion Cube</a> </li> </ul><p>Some of these cases are more debatable than others, but the point is that some characters are less significant than others.</p><p>The suggestion in the past was that when one of these minor characters is not doing anything of significance or acting independently, then they don't count towards <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo">solo</a>. This is what many taggers seem to be doing intuitively, but it's not easy to enforce consistently.</p> evazion /users/52664 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138457 2017-10-30T22:38:31-04:00 2017-10-30T22:38:31-04:00 @BrokenEagle98: Boko, the Big E, and Raising Heart are just a... <p><a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/boko_%28girls_und_panzer%29">Boko</a>, the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/uss_enterprise_%28cv-6%29">Big E</a>, and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/raising_heart">Raising Heart</a> are just a few examples of character tags but shouldn't count towards <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo">solo</a> considerations.</p> BrokenEagle98 /users/23799 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138455 2017-10-30T22:22:57-04:00 2017-10-30T22:23:57-04:00 @nonamethanks: I agree with the two three above, if it's a... <p>I agree with the <s>two</s> three above, if it's a copyrighted character it doesn't matter if it's humanoid. And the same situation goes for Pokemon unfortunately. <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=pokemon_%28creature%29%20solo%20~1girl%20~1boy%20-personification%20-humanization%20-cosplay%20-no_humans%20-gardevoir">pokemon_(creature) solo ~1girl ~1boy -personification -humanization -cosplay -no_humans -gardevoir</a></p> nonamethanks /users/508240 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138454 2017-10-30T22:21:10-04:00 2017-10-30T22:21:10-04:00 @Unbreakable: I agree with the above 2 posters. <p>I agree with the above 2 posters.</p> Unbreakable /users/430030 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138453 2017-10-30T21:49:15-04:00 2017-10-30T21:49:31-04:00 @user_445173: My opinion stands the same as forum #138312: as... <p>My opinion stands the same as <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/138312">forum #138312</a>: as long as the non-human character has a character tag and they're with <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/1boy">1boy</a> or <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/1girl">1girl</a>, I wouldn't tag those as <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo">solo</a>.</p> user_445173 /users/445173 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138450 2017-10-30T20:21:22-04:00 2017-10-30T20:21:22-04:00 @user_525419: I'd say as long as something has a char tag it... <p>I'd say as long as something has a char tag it should be considered as a character.<br>Might seem intuitive at first, but only like that we can ensure that a simple black cat isn't considered a character while <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/sakamoto_%28nichijou%29">Sakamoto</a> or <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-4" href="/wiki_pages/jiji_%28majo_no_takkyuubin%29">Jiji</a> is one. </p> user_525419 /users/525419 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/138448 2017-10-30T19:56:02-04:00 2017-10-30T20:03:22-04:00 @EB: Continuing from a discussion at topic... <p>Continuing from a discussion at <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/14603?page=3">topic #14603/p3</a>, since it seems there is inconsistency in whether animals, creatures, Rensouhous, etc. are considered or not in tagging an image as a <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo">solo</a>. Just to pick out how one example is tagged at the moment, <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=kero%20solo">kero solo</a> has 11 pages of results of him, the vast majority with Sakura, the implication being that his presence doesn't really disqualify an image from solo. Actually none of the images of Kero-chan alone (<a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=kero%20chartags%3A1">kero chartags:1</a>) have the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/solo">solo</a> tag, not even the one with him given a humanoid body (which I think would qualify for tags like <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/1boy">1boy</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/male_focus">male focus</a> as well). But there are just as many pages of results for <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=kero%20kinomoto_sakura%20chartags%3A2%20-solo">kero kinomoto_sakura chartags:2 -solo</a> indicating a high degree of inconsistency in how this situation is tagged. So, any opinions on what kind of rules we should establish for cases like this?</p> EB /users/11672