[APPROVED] [Fate] Nero Claudius

@user_525419: By the way @albert (or any other moderator): I...

2017-12-02T11:42:56-05:00

By the way @albert (or any other moderator):
I think it makes much more sense to change the topic's title from [FAILED] to [APPROVED].
The Bulk was still approved and did only fail the first time, so it's a bit confusing at first.

@user_525419: > CodeKyuubi said: > > So, I've noticed we've...

2017-12-02T11:38:55-05:00

CodeKyuubi said:

So, I've noticed we've been getting duplication of Fate chartags, as seen in post #2940458 and post #2927390 where we have two each of the general character tags. Is that intentional?

Jup, that makes sense.
Doesn't make much sense to have the "original" version of these chars tagged here.
So we don't really need tamamo no mae_(fate) / nero claudius_(fate) here.
The Swimsuit and the *_(all) tag only makes more sense.

@CodeKyuubi: So, I've noticed we've been getting duplication...

2017-12-02T11:35:06-05:00

So, I've noticed we've been getting duplication of Fate chartags, as seen in post #2940458 and post #2927390 where we have two each of the general character tags. Is that intentional?

@DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #1395 (forum #139588)...

2017-11-24T21:45:59-05:00

The bulk update request #1395 (forum #139588) has been approved by @albert.

@Unbreakable: Should run this again but without the "remove...

2017-11-24T21:45:52-05:00

Should run this again but without the "remove implication nero_claudius_(swimsuit_caster)_(fate) -> saber_extra" part since that implication doesn't exist.

EDIT: Like that, yeah.

@DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #1395 (forum #139588)...

2017-11-24T21:34:28-05:00

The bulk update request #1395 (forum #139588) has failed: Implication for nero_claudius_(swimsuit_caster)_(fate) not found

@G-SANtos: > WakuWaku said: > > I agree with separating...

2017-11-22T16:07:27-05:00

WakuWaku said:

I agree with separating Venus and implicating it to the catchall for consistency. I think the tagging should be practical rather than diving into technicalities of whether certain tags are different characters or not. (And I mean, technically, wouldn't nero_claudius_(fate) be for any image of Nero that isn't visually one of the tagged variants, not solely the one instance of the character from the events of Extra onward?)

Makes sense.
+1.

@WakuWaku: I agree with separating Venus and implicating...

2017-11-22T03:50:42-05:00

I agree with separating Venus and implicating it to the catchall for consistency. I think the tagging should be practical rather than diving into technicalities of whether certain tags are different characters or not. (And I mean, technically, wouldn't nero_claudius_(fate) be for any image of Nero that isn't visually one of the tagged variants, not solely the one instance of the character from the events of Extra onward?)

@G-SANtos: > create alias saber_bride ->...

2017-11-21T20:52:10-05:00

create alias saber_bride -> nero_claudius_bride_(fate)

I would prefer nero_claudius_(bride)_(fate) or nero_claudius_(saber_bride)_(fate) or nero_bride. The FGO profile uses ネロ・クラウディウス〔ブライド〕 as the True Name.
Type-MOON Wiki also claims ネロ・ブライド is an official term, but I'll have to check archives of Nasu's blog later. The link in TM Wiki goes to the wrong entry of Nasu's blog, and the website doesn't let me see entries previous to August 2017 (the entry they are citing is from 2016).

create alias saber_extra_(cosplay) -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(cosplay)

Is an alias for a cosplay tag really necessary? I would prefer a mass update.

remove implication saber_venus -> saber_extra
[...]
create implication saber_venus -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(all)
[...]
Saber Venus doesn't seem to go by any aliases but is a Nero still.

I'm not sure about this one. Saber Venus is currently not a separate character. While the Swimsuit and holiday variants are summoned separately, and some even mention their summoning, Saber Venus is actually Nero changing form through Heroic Spirit Apotheosis, a process some Servants in Extella can go through. It's just the same being in a separate form, unlike Swimsuit and holiday Servants who are just different clones of the legendary character (because, remember, according to Fate lore, all Servants are clones except Artoria in FSN).

Sure, they might eventually make her summonable, which would canonize her as a separate character, but for now, FGO has only used Saber Venus as a statue in Swimsuit Nero's Noble Phantasm. Though making her summonable might come with calls for making the other Heroic Spirit Apotheosis forms separate characters in the game as well, unless they actually implement Apotheosis in the game.
(Also, why do I get the feeling that a FGO Saber Venus would arrive together with Galactica Saber?)

@WatcherCCG: That seems to cover everything, sir.

2017-11-21T18:58:33-05:00

That seems to cover everything, sir.

@albert: remove implication...

2017-11-21T18:51:32-05:00

remove implication nero_claudius_(swimsuit_caster)_(fate) -> saber_extra
remove implication saber_bride -> saber_extra
remove implication saber_venus -> saber_extra
create alias saber_extra -> nero_claudius_(fate)
create alias saber_bride -> nero_claudius_bride_(fate)
create alias saber_extra_(cosplay) -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(cosplay)
create implication nero_claudius_(fate) -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(all)
create implication nero_claudius_bride_(fate) -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(all)
create implication nero_claudius_(swimsuit_caster)_(fate) -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(all)
create implication saber_venus -> nero_claudius_(fate)_(all)

Link to request

Let me know if anything is missing.

Saber Venus doesn't seem to go by any aliases but is a Nero still.

EDIT: The bulk update request #1395 (forum #139588) has failed: Implication for nero_claudius_(swimsuit_caster)_(fate) not found

EDIT: The bulk update request #1395 (forum #139588) has been approved by @albert.