[APPROVED] Tag implication: gumroad_reward -> paid_reward

@DanbooruBot: The tag implication gumroad_reward ->...

2018-10-20T01:02:55-04:00

The tag implication gumroad_reward -> paid_reward (forum #150459) has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

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2018-10-18T20:02:01-04:00

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@evazion: In most cases these uploads were sourced from...

2018-09-19T12:07:15-04:00

In most cases these uploads were sourced from nowhere. I changed them to Gumroad where either the source was left blank, or the uploader just put a link to the artist's Patreon profile (which is a useless practice that needs to die).

Let's be real, most uploaders of paid rewards aren't actually buying these rewards. They're getting them from third party dumps. I don't enjoy tracking down sources for uploaders who, I suspect, deliberately leave the source blank because they got it from a Patreon reward dump thread somewhere and they don't want to give up their sources.

If you can determine the specific Patreon post a file originated from, then by all means, put that as the source. Otherwise, the Gumroad link is usually the next best thing, certainly better than a blank source.

As far as the implication itself, I think it's fine.

@CodeKyuubi: > chinatsu said: > > An assumption isn't an...

2018-09-19T10:23:15-04:00

chinatsu said:

An assumption isn't an MD5 match. That would involve people having to buy the different versions just to check, for no real purpose. If something is sourced from Patreon, leave the Patreon source. Don't put a Gumroad post just because, unless you have the reward and verified it matches. Have you been uploading from Patreon and then putting a Gumroad source without any verification?

Codekyuubi said:

For example, almost all of my images tagged as gumroad reward originally had patreon links that evazion changed to gumroad links. And I or the people I uploaded from most definitely didn't get them through gumroad.

I assumed because you never addressed this point that you believed that patreon rewards should have gumroad sources where available.

And that said, most images *aren't* sourced from Patreon. When you receive a patreon reward, in most cases the artist will link you to a google drive/dropbox/similar service and you download the reward.

When you buy a gumroad reward, you download zipped folders/images.

I think you can make a fair assumption that the images aren't being re-compressed like they do on twitter or other social media services.

@chilled_sake: An assumption isn't an MD5 match. That would...

2018-09-19T04:05:24-04:00

An assumption isn't an MD5 match. That would involve people having to buy the different versions just to check, for no real purpose. If something is sourced from Patreon, leave the Patreon source. Don't put a Gumroad post just because, unless you have the reward and verified it matches. Have you been uploading from Patreon and then putting a Gumroad source without any verification?

@CodeKyuubi: Then I suppose the majority of patreon rewards...

2018-09-19T00:32:52-04:00

Then I suppose the majority of patreon rewards should be re-sourced then, if we can assume that the md5 from patreon and gumroad are identical because they're distributing files rather than being a platform to view images.

@chilled_sake: > CodeKyuubi said: > > Ehm, a lot of patreon...

2018-09-18T20:18:15-04:00

CodeKyuubi said:

Ehm, a lot of patreon rewards will be linked with gumroad links because patreon usually doesn't have a direct link to use for a patreon reward.

I know a bunch of patreon images that were sourced with gumroad links because gumroad links are a direct link to purchase rewards, whereas a patreon link doesn't get you diddly squat in regards to the reward being linked.

Edit: For example, almost all of my images tagged as gumroad reward originally had patreon links that evazion changed to gumroad links. And I or the people I uploaded from most definitely didn't get them through gumroad.

This is like saying that because an imagine is available on both twitter and pixiv that the source should arbitrarily be change to one of those. Or if you bought a TV at one store but it's available at another that someone says you bought it at the second.

If there's an MD5 match to Gumroad, the source should be changed from Patreon to Gumroad since it's more accessible. However just because an image may be available at both doesn't mean we should should say that someone is from where it wasn't sourced, if it's from gumroad it's from gumroad. The request is fine as-is.

@CodeKyuubi: Ehm, a lot of patreon rewards will be linked...

2018-09-18T19:50:05-04:00

Ehm, a lot of patreon rewards will be linked with gumroad links because patreon usually doesn't have a direct link to use for a patreon reward.

I know a bunch of patreon images that were sourced with gumroad links because gumroad links are a direct link to purchase rewards, whereas a patreon link doesn't get you diddly squat in regards to the reward being linked.

Edit: For example, almost all of my images tagged as gumroad reward originally had patreon links that evazion changed to gumroad links. And I or the people I uploaded from most definitely didn't get them through gumroad.

@Soundtracker: create implication gumroad_reward ->...

2018-09-18T18:42:55-04:00

create implication gumroad_reward -> paid_reward

Link to implication

Gumroad reward is a subset of paid reward.
P.S. I went and fixed the 17 pages of posts that were gumroad rewards tagged with patreon reward, so gumroad reward should be properly populated now.

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EDIT: The tag implication gumroad_reward -> paid_reward (forum #150459) has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.