tag:danbooru.me,2005:/forum_topics/16529 [REJECTED] Waistcoat Implies Vest 2020-03-14T15:34:08-04:00 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/164022 2020-03-14T15:34:08-04:00 2020-03-14T15:35:22-04:00 @Unbreakable: > iridescent_slime said: > > You don't mean we... <blockquote> <p>iridescent_slime said:</p> <p>You don't mean we should move <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless_hoodie</a> to <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_vest">hooded_vest</a>, do you? Sleeveless sweatshirts aren't vests.</p> </blockquote><p>My misstake, I was under the assumption that the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/hoodie_vest" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">hoodie vest</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless hoodie</a> tags had both hoodies without sleeves and vests with hoods in them (since this topic started as being about vests) and if this is the case they should be sorted out, the vests with hoods should fall under <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_vest">hooded vest</a> and the hoodies without sleeves should go under <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless hoodie</a>.</p> Unbreakable /users/430030 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/164021 2020-03-14T15:20:40-04:00 2020-03-14T15:27:02-04:00 @iridescent_slime: > Unbreakable said: > > What about hooded... <blockquote> <p>Unbreakable said:</p> <p>What about <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_vest">hooded vest</a>? I think that's a better tag to gather them under.</p> </blockquote><p>You don't mean we should move <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless_hoodie</a> to <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_vest">hooded_vest</a>, do you? Sleeveless sweatshirts aren't vests.</p><blockquote> <p>nonamethanks said:</p> <p>Just for the record, there's also the tag search <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=hooded_jacket%20sleeveless_jacket">hooded_jacket sleeveless_jacket</a> which doesn't look much different from those other two tags.</p> </blockquote><p>It's worth mentioning here that a <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_jacket">hooded jacket</a> and a <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hoodie">hoodie</a> (i.e. a hooded sweatshirt) aren't the same thing, even if these tags get used interchangeably in practice. A <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=hooded_jacket%20sleeveless_jacket">hooded_jacket sleeveless_jacket</a> search should be distinct from a <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless_hoodie</a> search.</p> iridescent_slime /users/438068 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/164019 2020-03-14T14:03:21-04:00 2020-03-14T14:03:21-04:00 @nonamethanks: Just for the record, there's also the tag... <p>Just for the record, there's also the tag search <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=hooded_jacket%20sleeveless_jacket">hooded_jacket sleeveless_jacket</a> which doesn't look much different from those other two tags.</p> nonamethanks /users/508240 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/164017 2020-03-14T13:56:31-04:00 2020-03-14T13:56:31-04:00 @Unbreakable: > Shinjidude said: > > Getting off topic, but... <blockquote> <p>Shinjidude said:</p> <p>Getting off topic, but since you mentioned it, shouldn't <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/hoodie_vest" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">hoodie_vest</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless_hoodie</a> get merged / aliased one way or the other? The former has the implication as you say, but the latter is 7x larger. As far as I can tell, they describe the same garment.</p> </blockquote><p>What about <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_vest">hooded vest</a>? I think that's a better tag to gather them under.</p> Unbreakable /users/430030 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/164014 2020-03-14T13:49:17-04:00 2020-03-14T13:49:17-04:00 @Shinjidude: Getting off topic, but since you mentioned it,... <p>Getting off topic, but since you mentioned it, shouldn't <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/hoodie_vest" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">hoodie_vest</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless_hoodie</a> get merged / aliased one way or the other? The former has the implication as you say, but the latter is 7x larger. As far as I can tell, they describe the same garment.</p> Shinjidude /users/1002 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/163935 2020-03-11T02:14:39-04:00 2020-03-11T02:14:39-04:00 @evazion: Leaving this rejected because of lack of... <p>Leaving this rejected because of lack of consensus. <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/hoodie_vest" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">Hoodie vest</a> is currently the only vest type that implies <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a>, and I would agree that's probably a bad implication.</p> evazion /users/52664 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/163914 2020-03-10T20:22:20-04:00 2020-03-10T20:22:20-04:00 @DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #2243 (forum #162255)... <p>The <a class="dtext-link" href="/bulk_update_requests?search%5Bid%5D=2243">bulk update request #2243</a> (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/162255">forum #162255</a>) has been rejected by <a href="/users?name=DanbooruBot">@DanbooruBot</a>.</p> DanbooruBot /users/502584 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/163913 2020-03-10T20:22:19-04:00 2020-03-10T20:22:19-04:00 @DanbooruBot: This bulk update request has been rejected... <p>This bulk update request has been rejected because it was not approved within 60 days.</p> DanbooruBot /users/502584 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/163741 2020-03-05T19:18:43-05:00 2020-03-05T19:18:43-05:00 @DanbooruBot: This bulk update request is pending automatic... <p>This bulk update request is pending automatic rejection in 5 days.</p> DanbooruBot /users/502584 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/162278 2020-01-11T04:08:28-05:00 2020-01-11T04:08:28-05:00 @iridescent_slime: There was talk of keeping sweater_vest separate... <p>There was talk of keeping <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sweater_vest">sweater_vest</a> separate from <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a> as far back as <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-topic-id-link" href="/forum_topics/1778">topic #1778</a>, but there was never any rigid rule put in place against using both tags for the same garment, so it's no surprise that <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=sweater_vest%20vest">sweater_vest vest</a> returns hundreds of results.</p><p>Also, there are quite a few results for <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=bulletproof_vest%20vest">bulletproof_vest vest</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=life_vest%20vest">life_vest vest</a>, and <a class="dtext-link dtext-post-search-link" href="/posts?tags=load_bearing_vest%20vest">load_bearing_vest vest</a> even though none of these are generally regarded as an article of clothing.</p><p>Then there are the flimsy little things that Nadia and Shantae wear (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/2226663">post #2226663</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/3466964">post #3466964</a>).</p><p>Not to mention the sleeveless denim jacket Android 18 wears (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/2035276">post #2035276</a>) which we often tag as <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a> for some reason.</p><p><a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link dtext-wiki-does-not-exist dtext-tag-empty" href="/wiki_pages/hoodie_vest" title="This wiki page does not have a tag">Hoodie_vest</a> actually <strong>implicates</strong> <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a>, despite the fact that many of the posts with this tag are clearly <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sleeveless_hoodie">sleeveless hoodies</a>. I'm not sure what purpose this tag serves, considering that we also have <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/hooded_vest">hooded_vest</a>.</p><p>YMMV, but I wouldn't think to tag any of the above as a waistcoat. The <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a> tag is really quite vague, isn't it?</p> iridescent_slime /users/438068 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/162277 2020-01-11T03:00:45-05:00 2020-01-11T03:05:25-05:00 @skylightcrystal: While a waistcoat is a type of vest, and the... <p>While a waistcoat is a type of vest, and the word "vest" encompasses much else, the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a> tag on danbooru is, as far as I know, exclusively used for waistcoats. Vests like <a rel="external nofollow noreferrer" class="dtext-link dtext-external-link" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Thicker-Heavier-Cotton-Singlet/dp/B00T7YROCC">https://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Thicker-Heavier-Cotton-Singlet/dp/B00T7YROCC</a> would generally not be considered vests as far as danbooru is concerned (although looking through the tag I see that there are a few of these images in there, as usual when a broad term is used as a tag for something specific). You also get <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/sweater_vest">sweater vests</a> mistagged into there, which are (as the name suggests) also a type of vest, but which doesn't have an implication on danbooru because vest isn't used for that sort of vest.</p><p>Confusing, but there we go.</p> skylightcrystal /users/557539 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/162262 2020-01-10T10:52:36-05:00 2020-01-10T10:52:36-05:00 @BrokenEagle98: I don't get it. They seem to be the exact same... <p>I don't get it. They seem to be the exact same thing. I get that one is formal and the other informal, but that's not something that can be easily visually distinguished. Also, it seems that the only thing separating the two visually is the presence of buttons.</p><p><a rel="external nofollow noreferrer" class="dtext-link dtext-external-link" href="http://www.differencebetween.net/language/words-language/differences-between-vest-and-waistcoat/">http://www.differencebetween.net/language/words-language/differences-between-vest-and-waistcoat/</a></p><p>However, do we really want to maintain two tags for what is essentially the same thing visually, or do we want to merge the waistcoat tag into the vest tag?</p> BrokenEagle98 /users/23799 tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/162255 2020-01-09T23:36:21-05:00 2020-03-10T20:22:20-04:00 @Anonymous9000: [bur:2243] Reason: A waistcoat is a specific... <p>The bulk update request #2243 has been rejected.</p><p>create implication <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/waistcoat">waistcoat</a> -&gt; <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/vest">vest</a></p><p>Reason: A waistcoat is a specific kind of vest. </p><p>EDIT: This bulk update request is pending automatic rejection in 5 days.</p><p>EDIT: This bulk update request has been rejected because it was not approved within 60 days.</p><p>EDIT: The <a class="dtext-link" href="/bulk_update_requests?search%5Bid%5D=2243">bulk update request #2243</a> (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-forum-post-id-link" href="/forum_posts/162255">forum #162255</a>) has been rejected by <a href="/users?name=DanbooruBot">@DanbooruBot</a>.</p> Anonymous9000 /users/179709