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Standardizing Princess Connect Qualifiers

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This goes beyond qualifiers, but there's actually a second issue with PriConne character tags that could potentially be fixed at the same time.

As the wiki page mentions, the plot of Re:Dive is that an MMO has become reality, causing most of its players to have amnesia and believe they always lived in the fantasy world of the MMO. Only the goddess Ames and a few other NPCs are aware of the 'real world' and the characters' previous lives.

The majority of PriConne characters are currently tagged with their 'real world' names, like kusano yui. These names were displayed on the "character cards" used in the original Princess Connect game that shut down in 2015, such as post #3045074. (As you can see in that image, most of the characters also looked quite different in the real world.)

In Re:Dive, none of their characters use their surnames because they've forgotten them; the dreams of the real world fabricated by the goddess Ames are an exception, but she explicitly tells you she made them from the protagonist's memories, not the girls'. In some cases, they instead have different surnames in the world of Astraea; for example, toudou akino has become "Akino Wistaria."

Kokkoro has a separate tag for her real world appearance, natsume kokkoro (princess connect!) (a misspelling; her name in the real world was Kokoro.) Some other characters might as well, I haven't checked them all.

Because of this I would suggest ignoring all PriConne characters' surnames and updating their tags to the format firstname_(qualifier). I also don't think it's necessary to have separate tags for their real world appearance, but I don't feel as strongly about that and wouldn't complain if we kept them.

Edit: I've put together a BUR for this, but I'll wait for discussion before submitting it.

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Given that I haven't played either of the games and just noticed the qualifiers being inconsistent I can't really give an opinion on the name issue but they should all follow the same rule (and if we go by the no surnames option the full names should be aliased to make it easier).

The bulk update request #2363 is pending approval.

Reason: No one's expressed an opinion either way, so here is the BUR I had in mind.

It mostly aliases the full "real world" names to given name + qualifier, but also corrects a few incorrect romanizations ("Natsume Kokkoro", "Tomi Kuka") and the inconsistent qualifiers that originally prompted this forum topic.

I can break it up if necessary - I know large BURs sometimes cause issues but I'm not sure if the problem is caused by the number of tags being updated or the number of posts being updated. (Most of these tags have a double or single-digit amount of posts.)

I skipped a few tags that have the wrong qualifier and very few posts, I'll correct them manually afterwards.

If the character's "real world" appearance is different from their "MMO" appearance, I think it would be worthwhile to separate the two depictions instead of lumping them together.

NWF_Renim said:

If the character's "real world" appearance is different from their "MMO" appearance, I think it would be worthwhile to separate the two depictions instead of lumping them together.

I agree. They look pretty visually distinct, so I think it's worthwhile having separate tags. Art with the "real world" variants looks to be rarer on Danbooru, so it would help with finding them if needed.

I'm OK with that, but what should we tag the real world variants as?

  • full_name: Means we can't alias the full names to firstname_(qualifier) as Unbreakable suggested. Might cause confusion, as there will be nothing directing uploaders and taggers to the new tags for the more common MMO appearances, except for wiki pages which a lot of users don't check. Also, a couple of the character names have to be (and currently already are) disambiguated.
  • full_name_(princess_connect!): Avoids the above issues, but I feel like both this and the first option might result in mistagging, as the tag name itself contains no indication of what distinguishes it from the 'regular' tag.
  • firstname_(real)_(princess_connect!) or something similar: Not very intuitive in what it represents, I have to admit, but the least likely to be mistakenly tagged. Also pretty darn long. Maybe firstname_(real)_(priconne) instead? The precedent is that alternate FGO forms that are double-qualified use the shorter qualifier _(fate).
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