planet aliases and implication

@DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #2456 (forum #165029)...

2020-04-15T18:37:44-04:00

The bulk update request #2456 (forum #165029) has been rejected by @evazion.

@DanbooruBot: The bulk update request #2495 (forum #165394)...

2020-04-15T18:37:31-04:00

The bulk update request #2495 (forum #165394) has been approved by @evazion.

@evazion: [bur:2495] Reason: Standardize on *_(planet)...

2020-04-15T18:36:45-04:00

The bulk update request #2495 is active.

mass update mercury -> mercury_(element)
mass update venus -> venus_(planet)
mass update mars -> mars_(planet)
mass update jupiter -> jupiter_(planet)
mass update saturn -> saturn_(planet)
mass update uranus -> uranus_(planet)
mass update pluto -> pluto_(planet)

Reason: Standardize on *_(planet) qualifier.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2495 (forum #165394) has been approved by @evazion.

@NWF_Renim: > iridescent_slime said: > > At the risk of...

2020-04-10T07:29:48-04:00

iridescent_slime said:

At the risk of starting a debate over a subject that some people seem to get irrationally emotional about, wouldn't it be more accurate to use Pluto_(dwarf_planet)?

It's too specific, and visually there is no way we'll get depictions of gravity rounded celestial objects where you could tell that they haven't "cleared their orbits" to split hairs between what is a dwarf and what isn't.

@blindVigil: > iridescent_slime said: > > At the risk of...

2020-04-10T01:34:34-04:00

iridescent_slime said:

At the risk of starting a debate over a subject that some people seem to get irrationally emotional about, wouldn't it be more accurate to use Pluto_(dwarf_planet)?

I would just stick with planet for the sake of consistency, since I doubt it makes a difference as far as danbooru is concerned. I'm sure someone will demand it be changed, but I think that'll happen regardless of which we end up going with.

@マローダー: > iridescent_slime said: > > Wouldn't it be...

2020-04-10T01:25:16-04:00

iridescent_slime said:

Wouldn't it be more accurate to use Pluto_(dwarf_planet)?

I don't know personally, I have a feeling that most people don't care even if they knew that, sounds too specific.

@iridescent_slime: > evazion said: > > I agree with making...

2020-04-10T01:13:04-04:00

evazion said:

I agree with making Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto into disambiguation pages and qualifying the actual planet tags with *_(planet).

At the risk of starting a debate over a subject that some people seem to get irrationally emotional about, wouldn't it be more accurate to use Pluto_(dwarf_planet)?

@evazion: I agree with making Mercury, Venus, Mars,...

2020-04-09T23:41:45-04:00

I agree with making Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto into disambiguation pages and qualifying the actual planet tags with *_(planet).

@Hungry_Dong: > skylightcrystal said: > > There are,...

2020-04-08T05:09:27-04:00

skylightcrystal said:

There are, however, jupiter (idolmaster), jupiter (pokemon), jupiter (azur lane) and jupiter (rockman) tags.

This is true. Venus and Mars are similar and I hadn't thought through the implications of that. Disambiguations are beginning to sound more appropriate.

@skylightcrystal: > Hungry_Dong said: > > I'm not sure...

2020-04-08T04:30:22-04:00

Hungry_Dong said:

I'm not sure differentiating them from their gods is necessary as said gods don't currently appear in any images on the site unless you count, say, Zeus.

There are, however, jupiter (idolmaster), jupiter (pokemon), jupiter (azur lane) and jupiter (rockman) tags.

@Hungry_Dong: > skylightcrystal said: > > Should Jupiter,...

2020-04-08T04:14:17-04:00

skylightcrystal said:

Should Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus also be moved to x_(planet) tags to make them consistent with the other non-earth planets, and differentiate them from the gods as well as any characters named after them?

I'm not sure differentiating them from their gods is necessary as said gods don't currently appear in any images on the site unless you count, say, Zeus.

@skylightcrystal: I think venus and mars should probably be...

2020-04-08T03:45:54-04:00

I think venus and mars should probably be changed into disambiguations instead.

Regarding the Saturn one, it's worth pointing out (although perhaps a bit pedantic) that Saturn has not had rings until relatively recently - someone depicting the solar system during the Jurassic, for instance, would be being historically inaccurate if they protrayed Saturn as having rings. It's a hypothetical, but it's better to avoid creating the problems to begin with. It's not as though the Saturn tag is common enough to prevent them being manually tagged.

Should Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus also be moved to x_(planet) tags to make them consistent with the other non-earth planets, and differentiate them from the gods as well as any characters named after them?

I see that you have already edited Saturn's wiki and agree with the changes you have made. Saturn isn't even the only planet with rings in our solar system (all 4 gas giants have them), merely the most visible and thus well known.

@Hungry_Dong: [bur:2456] Reason: Both versions of the venus...

2020-04-08T03:34:55-04:00

The bulk update request #2456 has been rejected.

create alias venus_(planet) -> venus
create alias mars_(planet) -> mars
create implication saturn -> planetary_ring

Reason: Both versions of the venus and mars tags are currently in use, it's a bit silly.

Currently the saturn tag can be used "for planets ... with visible rings around them" despite the fact that the planetary_ring tag has existed for over a decade. Ambiguous situations could occur where an artist draws, for instance, the planet earth with rings around it. In such a situation planetary_ring would be a more appropriate tag since saturn is not featured in the image. Once the implication is in place the saturn tag may simply be removed from images clearly not containing it.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2456 (forum #165029) has been rejected by @evazion.