What is "cute_&_girly(idolmaster)" tag?

@Log: > jxh2154 said: > Hmm, interesting question. It...

2009-08-04T18:11:19-04:00

jxh2154 said:
Hmm, interesting question. It depends how we're thinking of the tag. Did the tag exist before the Vocaloid version? If not, one can think of the tag as being "that tag for images that reference the Vocaloid PV of this song (by theme or most often costume)" in which case the qualifier makes sense. But then you have to ask, "Were the costumes influenced by the movie?" and if so... yeah. I guess it's not very clear cut. I'll undo the alias for now though.

The imagery is from paprika, just with vocaloids injected. All the current images are in reference to the PV but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone draw something using movie characters and similar scenery. (tldr: it's more paprika than vocaloid.)

P.S. See Also links in wikis are my new mortal enemy when making changes like this.

I would just do the ones on the character pages and let someone else sort out the rest.

@0xCCBA696: "Byakkoya no Musume" actually did involve...

2009-08-04T18:07:37-04:00

"Byakkoya no Musume" actually did involve vocaloids in its production, though it was created before the online vocaloid "boom" that produced what now exists in vocaloid.

@jxh2154: > unicogirl said: ^_^;; sorry to bug yea again;...

2009-08-04T18:00:16-04:00

unicogirl said: ^_^;; sorry to bug yea again; but "Byakkoya no musume" isn't Vocaloid created/copyrighted. It is from the Anime movie "Paprika".
So would that still have the vocaloid tag, due to it being a cover song?

Hmm, interesting question. It depends how we're thinking of the tag. Did the tag exist before the Vocaloid version? If not, one can think of the tag as being "that tag for images that reference the Vocaloid PV of this song (by theme or most often costume)" in which case the qualifier makes sense. But then you have to ask, "Were the costumes influenced by the movie?" and if so... yeah. I guess it's not very clear cut. I'll undo the alias for now though.

And also minus "Black Rock Shooter", since that is the name of a character, and a song; which isn't Vocaloid specific.

I don't think I'd done that one... maybe I accidentally switched it over in a couple of the wiki pages though, last night was something fo a blur.

P.S. See Also links in wikis are my new mortal enemy when making changes like this.

@Log: Copied back the BnM wiki, jxh can undo the...

2009-08-03T19:07:45-04:00

Copied back the BnM wiki, jxh can undo the alias later. I caught and omitted BRS when I made the list.

@juunigatsu_no_usagi: ^_^;; sorry to bug yea again; but "Byakkoya no...

2009-08-03T18:54:30-04:00

^_^;; sorry to bug yea again; but "Byakkoya no musume" isn't Vocaloid created/copyrighted. It is from the Anime movie "Paprika".

So would that still have the vocaloid tag, due to it being a cover song?

Or would it be "Byakkoya_no_musume_(Paprika)"?.
And also minus "Black Rock Shooter", since that is the name of a character, and a song; which isn't Vocaloid specific.

@jxh2154: Urgh, we really need some automatic wiki...

2009-08-03T15:44:34-04:00

Urgh, we really need some automatic wiki migration option on aliases. Doing these all manually is going to suck.

Edit: and all the links in other pages... yeah making changes to something that's ingrained in a network of wiki pages referencing each other is a terrible idea.

Edit2: Alright, aliased the non-ambiguous ones (basically, poppippo and the ones that were more than one word). Moving the wikis now. Then going to sleep because I've been up for 25 hours.

@Log: Here's a list of what's left, copied out of...

2009-08-03T10:49:01-04:00

Here's a list of what's left, copied out of each wiki, assuming the lists under the characters are complete.

@juunigatsu_no_usagi: hi Are all the Vocaloid songs going to have...

2009-08-03T10:15:56-04:00

hi
Are all the Vocaloid songs going to have "_(vocaloid)" at the end? Cause some don't.

@jxh2154: Now if only I could find them all... There's...

2009-07-21T13:45:50-04:00

Now if only I could find them all... There's another reason why these would be good... ease of finding out what ones we have! *vocaloid* bringing them all up seems like it would be pretty handy.

I got the following list pretty quickly by going into a vocaloid image and doing a "related copyrights" on the vocaloid tag:
koi_wa_sensou_(vocaloid)
double_lariat_(vocaloid)
aku_no_musume_(vocaloid)
world_is_mine_(vocaloid)
toeto_(vocaloid)
saihate_(vocaloid)
romeo_and_cinderella_(vocaloid)
meltdown_(vocaloid)
melt_(vocaloid)

I aliased them all to *_(vocaloid). None of them are likely to cause a conflict except, perhaps, meltdown. However by the time it becomes a real conflict, it'll be old enough that we'll be able to just remove the alias without any trouble, I think.

kokoro and magnet were already qualified.

I'll probably go back and think of other ones later, but for now feel free to post whatever ones you come across.

Doesn't just have to be for Vocaloid or Imas either, I'm sure there's a similar practice going on with a few other series.

Guess I have to go port over their wiki entries now too. And I thought the alias system was supposed to maintain the tagtype... although we never resolved the discussion over whether they should even be copy:'d anyway.

Edit: Added:
when_the_first_love_ends_(vocaloid)

@Log: Yeah I'm going to agree with the _(qualifier),...

2009-07-21T13:31:11-04:00

Yeah I'm going to agree with the _(qualifier), I don't really have a problem with the vocaloid ones not having them but either way is fine with me.

@0xCCBA696: +1 as well

2009-07-21T13:25:46-04:00

+1 as well

@NWF_Renim: Seems to make sense to me. +1 for the qualifiers.

2009-07-21T13:22:44-04:00

Seems to make sense to me. +1 for the qualifiers.

@jxh2154: They should just be changed to tag_(qualifier)...

2009-07-21T13:19:41-04:00

They should just be changed to tag_(qualifier) format to match our standard, so I'll alias them now.

I actually think qualifiers for this type of tag are a good idea in general - the Vocaloid ones (world_is_mine, melt etc) could use them, I feel. What do others think?

@Log: It's a costume set, a couple minutes looking...

2009-07-21T12:49:13-04:00

It's a costume set, a couple minutes looking through the tag probably could have told you this, as it is virtually one costume with a couple color variations throughout the entire search.

@KeliraTelian: Cosmic & Funny has a Wiki entry saying its a...

2009-07-21T12:39:38-04:00

Cosmic & Funny has a Wiki entry saying its a costume set from the game.

@chiisana: I was uploading idolm@ster image, and noticed a...

2009-07-21T12:22:44-04:00

I was uploading idolm@ster image, and noticed a cute_&_girly(idolmaster) tag. I can't find any connection between the images (IE: doesn't look like a set, or from the same artist), except for the fact that they're all idolm@ster related images. There is also no wiki article for it, so I don't know what this tag is about. Can someone please explain what this tag is, or should I go and remove it?

Edit: Dugg further, also found cool_&_sexy(idolmaster) and cosmic_&_funny(idolmaster) which seem to be similar tags... I'm lost_&_confused(user) right about now >_>