Mountain Pukuichi posts deleted

@jxh2154: > Ichigo69 said: Did we ever figure out exactly...

2009-07-24T03:40:29-04:00

Ichigo69 said: Did we ever figure out exactly /why/ he wanted his stuff pulled from Danbooru?

I doubt he has any reason deeper than "I want control over how my work is distributed". Which is fair, but also of course ludicrous when it's on the internet, because the only people who will abide by that when asked are people like us. Others will still post it anyway - like 4chan.

But it's his call, so whatever.

@Ichigo69: > LaC said: > Now, now. Let's not jump to...

2009-07-23T20:36:06-04:00

LaC said:
Now, now. Let's not jump to conclusions. The whole blog is offline (the admin's message says it's under construction), and until it comes back there's no way to know if it has anything to do with us.
Anyway, if some Japanese artists take notice of danbooru's existence, it's best to cultivate a friendly relationship with them. They might have valid reasons for wanting people to visit their own sites: for example, I think Mountain Pukuichi said it was a pity that he couldn't read the foreign readers' reactions. It could also be that he doesn't want his pictures to appear together with all the porn that gets posted on danbooru. Perhaps we should ask him once the blog is back.

I'm bringing up this old post because somebody just posted the entire Kagamin Bocchi to /u/ and I was reminded of it. Did anybody ever get to the bottom of this? Did we ever figure out exactly /why/ he wanted his stuff pulled from Danbooru? Did anybody contact him and ask him what his reasoning was? I'd really like to know. Also, Albert or whomever, if he actually /did/ state a reason and asked you to not reveal it, could you at least tell us that, just so some of us can have some sort of resolution.

@albert: Don't upload new Mountain Pukuichi posts. It's...

2008-11-11T09:04:28-05:00

Don't upload new Mountain Pukuichi posts. It's pointless for me to hardcode this ban because people can easily circumvent it but I'm asking users not to upload his artwork and for janitors not to approve it.

@0xCCBA696: Not really, the emoticon is still in the SA...

2008-11-10T21:23:25-05:00

Not really, the emoticon is still in the SA forums bestiary.

@スラッシュ: And I read that as "users should not be...

2008-11-10T13:51:52-05:00

And I read that as "users should not be uploading [reiQ/jiggly girl images]", with the implication that those images are not really danbooru material in the first place.

It is a mystery.

*cough* *cough* Phew, there was a good layer of dust on that meme.

@jxh2154: > evazion said: That seems to imply that...

2008-11-10T13:27:54-05:00

evazion said: That seems to imply that usually we can upload new material after a take down notice.

I just read that to mean that he doesn't usually go and explicitly point it out, but he wanted to clarify it this time. Maybe?

@evazion: Just to clarify, can we upload new material by...

2008-11-10T08:25:11-05:00

Just to clarify, can we upload new material by Mountain Pukuichi? I naturally assumed that we shouldn't, but then albert said this in the thread about reiq's work being removed:

albert said:
Additionally (and I don't usually do this for take down notices) I'd like to ask the janitors/mods to refrain from approving reiq/jiggly girl images (which users should not be uploading).

That seems to imply that usually we can upload new material after a take down notice.

@ProfessorTomoe: Looks like his blog is back up now. Wish he'd...

2008-10-29T05:16:48-04:00

Looks like his blog is back up now.

Wish he'd change his mind on the Danbooru issue. Don't they teach basic marketing over there? :-(

@LaC: Same here - and the password page is served...

2008-10-28T00:32:38-04:00

Same here - and the password page is served with 200 OK.

@葉月: > LaC said: > Are you really, honestly getting...

2008-10-27T22:57:45-04:00

LaC said:
Are you really, honestly getting a 404? Or something else? Because I'm getting a 200.

No, we're just messing with you.

For me, it asks for a password.

@piespy: > LaC said: > Are you really, honestly getting...

2008-10-27T14:16:51-04:00

LaC said:
Are you really, honestly getting a 404? Or something else? Because I'm getting a 200.

Not quite. I'm getting a "302 Found" redirect to http://error.fc2.com/blog/ which then displays a "404 Error" page. But other blogs on *.blog10.fc2.com work fine.

@EB: Since I saw this thread and started checking,...

2008-10-27T13:42:06-04:00

Since I saw this thread and started checking, the only thing I've been getting when I go to his blog is a password page.

@LaC: Are you really, honestly getting a 404? Or...

2008-10-27T13:30:02-04:00

Are you really, honestly getting a 404? Or something else? Because I'm getting a 200.

@piespy: No, the artist entry and links are still there:...

2008-10-27T13:17:31-04:00

No, the artist entry and links are still there: http://danbooru.me/artist/show/11497

Btw, I'm still getting a 404 on the blog. Maybe he did block some IPs?

@LaC: The wiki/artist info is gone, since there are...

2008-10-27T13:15:01-04:00

The wiki/artist info is gone, since there are no longer any posts with his tag. Anyway, his blog now says "renewal in progress".

@memegui: There could be a dialogue with this Pukuichi...

2008-10-27T13:09:56-04:00

There could be a dialogue with this Pukuichi guy. Like, ask him to allow his posts here because of the English translations or something. Doesn't the mountain_pukuichi wiki link to his site/blog? That could convince him.

@LaC: Lighten up, that was just a jab at the weird...

2008-10-27T02:42:35-04:00

Lighten up, that was just a jab at the weird customs they have over there. I certainly wasn't suggesting that we seek confrontation.

@Svatopluk: > LaC said: > Hey, I'm trying to engage in...

2008-10-27T00:49:45-04:00

LaC said:
Hey, I'm trying to engage in constructive and reasonable dialogue here. Please don't destroy all hope right away.

I'm just stating a fact. If you don't believe me, google "this site is link free", with the quotes. You'll get a lot of sites explaining the concept.

If I thought Japanese netiquette the gospel to be adhered to religiously by the rest of the world then obviously I wouldn't be contributing to danbooru. But when you run a site dealing near-exclusively with Japanese artists it's good to be aware of these things.

By Japanese standards, a site like danbooru is just not acceptable, period. To be acceptable, it would have to be like da, so that only artists can upload. That there aren't more removal requests is probably due to the fact that Japanese tend to avoid confrontation.

If a dialog is established, then maybe we can convince them that the art is going to be reproduced anyway, and a site that reproduces at full quality and gives full credit is preferrable to other sites compressing the hell out of the art and not mentioning artists at all.

But then again, maybe not.

@bluishwolf: Lucky Star characters would fit that definition...

2008-10-26T15:05:40-04:00

Lucky Star characters would fit that definition precisely. Not that it matters, though, since derivative artwork copyright is rather liberal in Japan.

@juunigatsu_no_usagi: ^_^;; why do you guys trip so much when an...

2008-10-26T14:59:25-04:00

^_^;; why do you guys trip so much when an artist request you remove their work?

only part i can agree on is someone who draws an established character (doujin), and then claiming rights to it, even though it is not their art style to begin with. if that made sense.