This new ex-meiling tag is great and all, but posts with only one character in them should not have two chartags, if possible. It defeats the purpose of the chartags metatag. Therefore, instead of ex-rumia, ex-keine, and ex-meiling, I propose we just use an ex-mode tag along with their regular chartag. No loss of information occurs, and the chartag count for these images becomes accurate.

While I agree with the 1 chartag:1 character sentiments, making one tag into two never works. post #352036 for instance would show up under "rumia ex-mode."

Meiling and rumia may have ultra-low counts but keine is over 1100 posts. Overlap between (ex-)Rumia + (ex-)keine is 80 posts and as time goes on this will just grow.

Without relational tags this is just purging too much information with very little gain.

Just changing the ex-* tags into general tags would solve the chartag problem.

evazion said:
Just changing the ex-* tags into general tags would solve the chartag problem.

This sounds like a good solution. It's also consistent with _(cosplay) and _(cameo) tags.

With that in mind, should the biribiri tag be changed back to a general tag, then? I remember it was discussed in forum #28902 but it was kept as a character tag. These ex-* tags seem like the same case as the biribiri tag, or at least to me.

Soljashy said:
This sounds like a good solution. It's also consistent with _(cosplay) and _(cameo) tags.

We've stopped using cameo tags.

Hillside_Moose said:
We've stopped using cameo tags.

Hmmm. There were still a few lying around when I checked, wouldn't know if they're being used officially or not.

I'll revise my point, then. It's consistent with the _(cosplay) tags. Also, I would support changing biribiri back to a general tag for the same reasons stated above.

We never really *started* using them, to be honest. There are a few *_(cameo) tags lying around, however. I actually saw someone add them to a post yesterday.

I hadn't considered the overlap. But to be honest, I still think it should be done. Ex-mode is a property of the character in the image, just like red_hair. As you say though, it would result in lost information.

In the alternative, I agree that the ex-* tags should be made general.

It might go without saying, but this is a place nested/hierarchical tags would have come in handy, since ex-meiling is technically a combo-tag.

The only way to make chartags perfect is to base them on a value set separately from whatever tagging goes on, which adds an extra step.

I agree that making them general tags is probably a better solution than adding a new ex-mode tag and trying to purge all the ex-* char tags.

Done.