tag:danbooru.me,2005:/forum_topics/5818Tag Implication: ^_^ -> closed_eyes2011-03-06T18:15:16-05:00tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/583902011-03-06T18:15:16-05:002011-03-06T18:15:16-05:00@Hellbus: Would having a "^_^_(emoticon)" tag help?<p>Would having a "^_^_(emoticon)" tag help?</p>Hellbus/users/71420tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/570452011-02-19T14:06:39-05:002011-02-19T14:06:39-05:00@jxh2154: > Fencedude said: I still maintain that the...<blockquote><p>Fencedude said: I still maintain that the emoticon expression tags should only be used for the emoticon itself in images, for this very reason.</p></blockquote><p>Kind of agree, but it's a bit much to unwind at this point. I'd rather get the emoticon tag <em>and</em> any applicable word tags on there so we've got all bases covered.</p><p>To that end, did the implication asked for in the top post. NWF's ambiguous cases are noted, but as he notes we can probably live with that under <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a>.</p>jxh2154/users/1309tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568782011-02-17T05:52:16-05:002011-02-17T05:52:16-05:00@KeliraTelian: I still maintain that the emoticon expression...<p>I still maintain that the emoticon expression tags should only be used for the emoticon itself in images, for this very reason.</p>KeliraTelian/users/9521tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568772011-02-17T05:51:05-05:002011-02-17T05:51:05-05:00@NWF_Renim: It is true that they're closed eyes, but I kind...<p>It is true that they're closed eyes, but I kind of question if they should be under the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a> tag or not. While images of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%5E_%5E">^_^</a> share identical appearances as normally closed eyes in most cases, <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%3E_%3C">>_<</a> images does not actually share a similarity in appearance and so I question if people searching for closed eyes would be really be wanting to find images of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%3E_%3C">>_<</a>.</p><p>Going with current tagging, over 35% of images tagged <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%5E_%5E">^_^</a> are also already tagged <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a>. On the other hand only about 10% of images tagged <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%3E_%3C">>_<</a> are also tagged <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a>. I kind of think that shows that fewer people think that <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%3E_%3C">>_<</a> images should be found under the <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a> tag.</p>NWF_Renim/users/13392tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568762011-02-17T04:44:45-05:002011-02-17T04:44:45-05:00@Lunatic6: There is another type of close eyes,>_< that...<p>There is another type of close eyes,<a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%3E_%3C">>_<</a> that said to be the eyes are really shut.</p>Lunatic6/users/321535tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568752011-02-17T04:12:40-05:002011-02-17T04:12:40-05:00@NWF_Renim: I've only looked through the rating:s images so...<p>I've only looked through the rating:s images so far (89%) of the images tagged <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%5E_%5E">^_^</a> and only found the two already tagged <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/emoticon">emoticon</a>, so it doesn't really seem the emoticon usage is really present amongst the images. I guess there really wouldn't be any issues then going with the implication.</p><p>There were also two images of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-3" href="/wiki_pages/pokemon">pokemon</a>, <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/659966">post #659966</a> (especially comparing it to <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/792688">post #792688</a>) and <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/670474">post #670474</a> where it seems the eyes aren't actually closed to accomplished the ^_^ expression. Not that I'm using them for an argument, just thought it seemed a bit odd (only found those 2 images out of 89% of the current 1520 not deleted images).</p>NWF_Renim/users/13392tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568722011-02-17T02:23:47-05:002011-02-17T02:23:47-05:00@Shinjidude: As a precedent in this case, we do have an...<p>As a precedent in this case, we do have an implication for <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%3Ap">:p</a> → <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/tongue">tongue</a>, where an emoticon implies a component that would be present in an actual expression, but not the symbol itself.</p>Shinjidude/users/1002tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568362011-02-16T14:46:45-05:002011-02-16T14:48:08-05:00@NWF_Renim: Well not necessarily all instances are spoken,...<p>Well not necessarily all instances are spoken, the example I quickly found (<a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/597780">post #597780</a>) was spoken, but they aren't actually spoken in <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/539392">post #539392</a>. Those were just the ones found under <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/emoticon">emoticon</a>, but I doubt they're the only ones.</p><p>I kind of think that it would be better to tag it closed_eyes on a case to case bases, given that this tag is also a emoticon, it can't be ignored that there is likely a lot of emoticon usages of it in there. It could well be a depiction on a computer screen or something in the image, in which case I don't think <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a> would be valid in those cases.</p>NWF_Renim/users/13392tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568342011-02-16T14:33:45-05:002011-02-16T14:33:45-05:00@Saladofstones: Would it be handled like other spoken_...<p>Would it be handled like other spoken_ instances? We could use spoken_emoticon to differentiate when it is being used in speech.</p>Saladofstones/users/318380tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568332011-02-16T14:28:51-05:002011-02-16T14:28:51-05:00@NWF_Renim: What happens if that expression is an emoticon...<p>What happens if that expression is an emoticon instead of the expression on the character? Things like <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/597780">post #597780</a> and <a class="dtext-link dtext-id-link dtext-post-id-link" href="/posts/539392">post #539392</a>. There are no real eyes being closed in those circumstances.</p>NWF_Renim/users/13392tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568312011-02-16T14:02:50-05:002011-02-16T14:02:50-05:00@Saladofstones: ^_^ is an expression that involves having the...<p>^_^ is an expression that involves having the eyes closed.</p>Saladofstones/users/318380tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568302011-02-16T14:00:08-05:002011-02-16T14:00:08-05:00@Shinkukage09: While I get your point..."Closed eyes" is a...<p>While I get your point..."Closed eyes" is a state of the eyes. "^_^" is an expression.</p>Shinkukage09/users/320732tag:danbooru.me,2005:ForumPost/568292011-02-16T13:57:48-05:002011-03-06T18:15:16-05:00@Saladofstones: Implicate ^_^ to closed_eyes
reason: It is...<p>Implicate <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%5E_%5E">^_^</a> to <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/closed_eyes">closed_eyes</a></p><p>reason: It is within the definition of <a class="dtext-link dtext-wiki-link tag-type-0" href="/wiki_pages/%5E_%5E">^_^</a> that the eyes are closed and this is verified by the wiki.</p>Saladofstones/users/318380