Tag aliases: alternate_*

@jxh2154: Done

2012-03-20T15:43:05-04:00

Done

@Danielx21: Here's another one: create alias /adcos ->...

2012-03-03T23:48:37-05:00

Here's another one:

create alias /adcos -> adapted_costume

(compare: /acos -> alternate costume)

@Danielx21: > jxh2154 said: > If you can include...

2012-01-29T00:22:20-05:00

jxh2154 said:
If you can include underscores in tags when suggesting instead of spaces, like you did in the rest of this post, that would be helpful

OK.

@jxh2154: > Danielx21 said: However, this one came out...

2012-01-28T14:38:18-05:00

Danielx21 said: However, this one came out wrong; please undo it:

/ahw -> alternate

Batch alias/implication functionality breaks if spaces are used instead of underscores. I try to manually find&replace when submitting but miss some. If you can include underscores in tags when suggesting instead of spaces, like you did in the rest of this post, that would be helpful (less chance of me missing one), since probably half of the jobs I put in are your requests.

Did:
create alias /ahw -> alternate_headwear
create alias /aec -> alternate_eye_color
create alias alternative_eye_color -> alternate_eye_color

@BCI_Temp: Yeah, I didn't think that would be likely to...

2012-01-24T10:48:49-05:00

Yeah, I didn't think that would be likely to work efficiently.

Just loading up the pool pop-up or clicking on the "related" tag links under the edit box takes quite a while.

@Shinjidude: The reason it was done client-side is because...

2012-01-24T08:55:50-05:00

The reason it was done client-side is because it's much friendlier to have a mini copy of the tag database on the end user's machine that can be accessed locally than have every user continuously ramming the one database on the site's back-end every time they pause while typing.

If I remember correctly, shortly after this extension was first released, very early in Danbooru's history, Albert did incorporate tag auto-completion into the site itself, but it was almost immediately reverted since it caused the database to continuously time out.

@BCI_Temp: That would rock if it could be implemented...

2012-01-24T07:50:52-05:00

That would rock if it could be implemented without slowing down typing.

@S1eth: What if tag auto-completion were built into the...

2012-01-24T07:49:28-05:00

What if tag auto-completion were built into the site?

@BCI_Temp: Eh, I'd rather have better usability built into...

2012-01-24T07:47:32-05:00

Eh, I'd rather have better usability built into the site (i.e. the aliases) than to have to install more crap into my browser just to make use of one site.

Personally, I make heavy use of aliases whenever I discover them. They save a lot of time for cumbersome generic tags.

@Shinjidude: The DanbooruUp Firefox extension (forum...

2012-01-24T06:48:14-05:00

The DanbooruUp Firefox extension (forum #22135). Allows you to start typing in tags, and it will auto-predict for you based on the tags currently in use. That way you only need to type three or four characters plus enter to get the tag you want. It's very useful, even if that's the only feature of the extension I use anymore.

@BCI_Temp: > S1eth said: > Don't the people who know about...

2012-01-24T06:21:58-05:00

S1eth said:
Don't the people who know about shortcuts and actually contribute all use tag auto-completion anyway?

No. What exactly does that entail?

@Danielx21: > Danielx21 said: > Thanks, I've been using...

2012-01-23T22:28:14-05:00

Danielx21 said:
Thanks, I've been using these a lot lately.

Here are other, less popular, tags I have been using often, that would benefit from aliasing, too.

alternative headwear -> alternate headwear

/ahw -> alternate headwear

alternative hair length -> alternate hair length

/ahl -> alternate hair length

I see these have been done, too, even if jhx didn't espressly say it here. Thanks.

However, this one came out wrong; please undo it:

/ahw -> alternate

And, please, do these implications...

/ahw -> alternate_headwear (the right target of /ahw)
/aec -> alternate_eye_color (suggested above by Aristocrat)
alternative_eye_color -> alternate_eye_color (typical "alternative -> alternate")

@ghostrigger: > RiderFan said: > How about a tag for...

2012-01-11T14:52:31-05:00

RiderFan said:
How about a tag for alternate_legwear?

not sure myself, but while studying post #1002781, the user chose adapted_costume instead of alternate_footwear and alternate_skirt.

in case of post #1069332, there's a slight change from pantyhose to thighhighs but maintaining the basic design. if adapted_costume isn't enough for things like this, then should we also consider alternate_skirt_length for post #871722?

@RiderFan: This is something that has been on my mind for...

2012-01-11T13:53:00-05:00

This is something that has been on my mind for a while now:
How about a tag for alternate_legwear? Relevant images could be like post #1069332 and post #350913. Would there be any validity for this tag?

@Danielx21: I think having a number of shortcuts to help...

2012-01-08T23:36:52-05:00

I think having a number of shortcuts to help only one regular tagger is a good idea, if making them is not a particularly troublesome task for jhx. If you don't use them, (because you prefer the auto-completion and whatnot) you can just ignore them.

The "when some popular IP" reasoning is poor. All words, abbreviations and sequences of characters have potential to become names of famous IPs. Maybe some day an awesome manga called "Breasts" comes out, but I woulnd't want to preemptively change/delete/rename breasts based on that. If/when the time comes, Danbooru will know what to do. We even have common practices concerning that, such as removing a tag completely as "ambiguous" or saying on the wiki "This is for meaning A; for meaning B, use this other tag".

Apparently there's no way of knowing exactly how much the slashed abbreviations are used. I can only assume they are used to some extent, since they are common practice on Danbooru. (Interestingly, as a comparatively rare big example, zettai_ryouiki has 24,400+ posts and the shortcut /zr. It's reasonable to assume that not absolutely everyone who populated that tag was interested in typing everything accurately or installed the autocompletion. Maybe, some times, they made use of the shortcut.)

By the way, I suppose typing /acos (four characters) is easier than making alternate_costume appear in the autocompletion, since you should type at least "alternate_cos" or some down arrows because there are multiple other tags that begin with "alternate_".

And, I don't use the auto-completion, because AFAIK it makes me press enter twice always, which is annoying.

@Hillside_Moose: All except one person, apparently. I grow...

2012-01-08T23:09:22-05:00

All except one person, apparently.

I grow weary of these shortcut aliases because we're inevitably going to hit a snag when some popular IP that shares the same initials comes along. Not to mention these shortcuts don't help anyone except the one person suggesting them.

@S1eth: Don't the people who know about shortcuts and...

2012-01-08T13:41:58-05:00

Don't the people who know about shortcuts and actually contribute all use tag auto-completion anyway?

@Aristocrat: Maybe alternate_eye_color would benefit from a...

2012-01-08T13:40:42-05:00

Maybe alternate_eye_color would benefit from a shortcut (/aec?) since it'd encourage people to tag it more; as of now, it's not well-populated.

@ghostrigger: i'll just ask if there's a need to create a...

2012-01-08T12:18:47-05:00

i'll just ask if there's a need to create a separate alternate_hair_length tag when its very definition falls under alternate_hairstyle circa 2008?

@Danielx21: Thanks, I've been using these a lot lately. ...

2012-01-06T23:16:45-05:00

Thanks, I've been using these a lot lately.

Here are other, less popular, tags I have been using often, that would benefit from aliasing, too.