Unless I missed some kind of major "plot point" regarding our intent for these tags, the gathers -> frills implication is one of (more broadly applicable tag) -> (less broadly applicable tag). I just don't see why you would want to do this, it is the exact opposite of the long_hair and highres implications and makes no sense.
Edit: Alright, I just got the point behind this (I'm dumb...).
The intent is to search the corrugated look with frills, and using frilled_clothingtype gathers to search gathered clothing only, and frilled_clothingtype -gathers for frills only, right? Thereby only needing frilled_clothingtype tags, and being able to use those for specific clothing types, both frilled and gathered.
However, I think that is extremely confusing and feels very backwards seeing the meanings of those names. (with gathers being the super-set)
A way to have only one type of x_clothingtype tags, while keeping gathers as the natural super-set would be to change frilled_clothingtype into gathered_clothingtype. While it's not exactly a change I'd be jumping to make, I'd argue it is less confusing, and technically more correct.
Personally, I don't mind having separate gathered_clothingtype tags either. Its main opposition seems to have been users looking for that "corrugated look" by using frilled_clothingtype missing gathered_clothingtype and vice versa.
Not only would this actually be correct, it was solved by using gathers as a super-set (from its original "separate from frills" status). Then one can search for gathers dress and get both gathered and frilled dresses (there is of course also always ~gathered_dress ~frilled_dress). Just like lace.
Cyberia-Mix said:
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Regardless, this is getting so complicated that I made a chart to summarize your reasoning. Here.If we can draw a clear line that prevents users from misunderstanding the tags' use then I'd like to follow your model. As long as not finding frilled dresses and gathered dresses together in your regular search can make sense.
While gathers dress is a bit less accurate than frilled_dress, frilled_dress gathers and frilled_dress -gathers are also a bit less accurate than gathered_dress and frilled_dress.
The only difference is, with the "frilled_clothingtype only" solution, the wording is more confusing, and there are 2 tag searches that drop in accuracy.
Also, ~gathered_dress ~frilled_dress would actually be 100% accurate.
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