create implication surgical_mask -> mask

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It's a mask.

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EDIT: The tag implication surgical_mask -> mask (forum #139753) has been rejected by @DanbooruBot.

By extension, should oxygen mask and respirator imply mask? How about welding mask and balaclava ("ski masks")?

While we're on this topic, what's the purpose of face mask and how is it distinct from just mask (which it implies)?

Blue_Trident said:

While we're on this topic, what's the purpose of face mask and how is it distinct from just mask (which it implies)?

Face masks, from my understanding, only cover the lower half of the face, like Kakashi from Naruto, and masks can cover partially or fully.

I don't see a tangible difference between surgical_mask and face_mask.

I think for the most part both masks are used as a fashion accessory. There may be some marginal cases of someone wearing them while sick but this is the same dynamic as glasses worn as an accessory versus to aid in vision.

*So in general I'd like to see the above tags essentially rolled up into a generalized face_mask tag and masks that are specifically designed for medical/sanitary usage.

I think also there should be some generalized tags for animals and traditional Japanese spirits depicted by masks.

I think we should have some style/color tags that apply to any of these (i.e. pink_mask + face_mask, or pink_mask + fox_mask would both be correct).

*I should also note. I very much prefer "face mask" over "medical mask" and would prefer that to get the alias. If not though it doesn't really affect the rest of what my post considers.

iridescent_slime said:

By extension, should oxygen mask and respirator imply mask? How about welding mask and balaclava ("ski masks")?

For that matter, only the top three plus tengu_mask implies mask, along with the placement types mask on head, mask removed & holding mask. There are a dozen others (including balaclavas and hannya) before getting to welding mask. Which--as the argument goes--is a mask after all.

Blue Trident said:

While we're on this topic, what's the purpose of face mask and how is it distinct from just mask (which it implies)?

By definition according to wiktionary: not a darned thing...

CodyKyuubi said:

Face masks, from my understanding, only cover the lower half of the face, like Kakashi from Naruto, and masks can cover partially or fully.

...but by usage, on the contrary; just the first page alone shows there's no common agreement; fourteen 'combat' types as CodeKyuubi describes which only covers the nose and mouth, ten surgical masks (more than half not tagged so), a few others as a catchall (balaclava, half mask, domino mask) including a couple veils for good measure. Further into the search shows a lot of fox masks and the like because animals have faces. I gather more than a few character masks are tagged this way. Face mask is a tag which screams disambiguation.

chinatsu said:

I think for the most part both masks are used as a fashion accessory. There may be some marginal cases of someone wearing them while sick but this is the same dynamic as glasses worn as an accessory versus to aid in vision.

There is no difference between glasses worn as an accessory and glasses worn for corrective purposes by tag-what-you-see procedure, as I understand it.

So in general I'd like to see the above tags essentially rolled up into a generalized face_mask tag and masks that are specifically designed for medical/sanitary usage.

What purpose mask then? It'd be pretty much duplicative.

Lokispawn said:

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I'm pointing out that there is a very narrow type of mask that could be used in a sanitary medical environemnt, ie https://www.amazon.com/Commercial-Surgical-Disposable-Registered-Approved/dp/B01DEMPDJ8

And yes I'm agreeing that we should tag based on what we see and there isn't really a distinction to be drawn between glasses for fashion and glasses to aid in vision. Most medical/surgical/face masks on this site however are for fashion or practical use. I think that that tags for actual medical use should be tagged separately where discernible, based on their actual appearance not the context of how they're used.

Take https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411aMsIl3JL.jpg for instance, this is clearly different from what most of face_mask and surgical_mask cover. But if you don't feel that distinction can but drawn then it would still be necesary for subclasses of the tag. some come to mind, based on color, and based on print. If you wanted plain white masks like a surgeon would wear you could search 'face/surgical_mask + white_mask -print_mask' where as print_masks and color tags would present you a variety of styled masks. Print_mask could break down into like bear_face_mask, teeth_face_mask, etc...

Here are some example products: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=face+mask+anime

Quite common as convention fare

Are those really "masks", though?
When I think of masks, I wouldn't necessarily think of medical masks, despite the name.
Looking through the tags that imply mask, it seems that most stuff is more for fashion or costume play and not for medicals stuff.

Surgical_mask has around 1.100 posts and in a -mask surgical_mask search over half of it is not tagged with mask.

I wanted to see if anyone else had some feelings on chinatsu's input as to the larger issues he raises, but, only with regards to surgical masks...

chinatsu said:
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Quite common as convention fare

The thing is though that while your examples are marketed products, their use is still mostly for sanitary purposes. Kind of like having decorative art drawn on a cast for your broken arm to add character to a practical item, people walking around at a convention with 'fashionable print' masks that have the likeness to surgical masks are still primarily doing so to keep from spreading/catching germs. This is due to a culture which places importance on common courtesy--and exaggerated claims of Japanese immunity deficiencies to the common cold, which keeps those companies that hawk energy drinks, disposable surgical masks and the like thriving and 'healthy.' Such obiquitousness is probably what led to ~bousouzoku ~sukeban ~delinquent ~yakuza ~banchou using them as the go-to item to disguise their faces.

This was to put aside what else you would have done to face mask and mask in general; your post preempted mine and I didn't have time to give it due consideration. But as pointed out above face mask as it is already does seem to suffer from considerable pollution. I'd rather see how others respond.

Chiera said:

Are those really "masks", though?

They will be when tagged mask removed or the like and mask is added by implication. But not when worn as designed without the discussed implication, following the logic of not having one, which would confuse surgical mask's continued use.

Speaking of which, the same also applies to how other masks not so implied (gas, oni, etc.) currently work, which somewhat replicates this:

Surgical_mask has around 1.100 posts and in a -mask surgical_mask search over half of it is not tagged with mask.

Oni_mask -hata_no_kokoro (removing her because she'd otherwise skew the results) also reveals that only half (oni_mask -hata_no_kokoro -mask) share the mask tag, half again aided by implications (oni_mask -hata_no_kokoro ~mask_on_head ~mask_removed ~holding_mask)

When I think of masks, I wouldn't necessarily think of medical masks, despite the name.
Looking through the tags that imply mask, it seems that most stuff is more for fashion or costume play and not for medicals stuff.

With this only half applied, there being other costume related masks (stone mask_(jojo), for one) which doesn't implicate.

Guess this whole thing is larger than the simple suggestion I'd first thought to give.

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