It looks like there really isn't any difference between these two tags at this time (except in the set of posts they're applied to). controller should probably be aliased to game_controller, or vice versa, for now. (I like game_controller since it's more explicit about what it is, but don't have a strong opinion.)

When I think "controller", I usually do think of video game controllers. However, there's also remote controls for TVs, air conditioners, RC toy cars, etc., so the alias might not be such a good idea.

I'd suggest just editing the applicable ones over.

Maybe we should also have game controller, remote control, etc., implicate controller?

I wouldn't be against it.

UnderneathTheWaves said: Maybe we should also have game controller, remote control, etc., implicate controller?

Done. Went ahead and edited controller to game_controller. Maybe some were wrong but at a glance it didn't seem like it.

sorry to bump this. jusk asking if there's a difference between remote_control and remote? looking by the posts, there appears to be no major difference. i would request an alias if acceptable:

create alias remote -> remote_control

the latter already implicates controller.

I would be very hesitant in implicating remote to controller through this alias. They're two different things in form and function.

Hillside_Moose said:
I would be very hesitant in implicating remote to controller through this alias. They're two different things in form and function.

Isn't controller just a catch-all term for all kinds of devices used to control something else?

I don't see why remote_control would count as a controller and remote wouldn't - the latter is just a shortened version of the former.

The remote wiki says "For Danbooru purposes this tag tends not to be applied to wireless game controllers or computer mice/keyboards." Wikis can change of course, but we would need to reword that if we let it implicate controller.

I'm a bit confused by the discussion at the end. Are we against aliasing remote to remote_control because they are supposed to be two separate tags (if so, then how are they different? There is no wiki for the latter currently), or is the problem just that the latter implicates controller? (if that's the case, why not remove that implication and then alias?) Needs some clarification, particularly with there being many shokuhou_misaki images lately.

This could use some clarification still, yeah. I just left off noting what the wikis said, and that if we want to do it differently we need to update the wikis.

My main concern is what we are doing with the general controller tag (which doesn't have a wiki currently). If remote_controls should not implicate controller, as Hillside Moose says, then the tag is pretty much mostly redundant with game_controller. I just did some cleanup, going through controller -joystick -game_controller -wii_remote -remote_control -remote and adding in more specific tags wherever I could.

joystick: Doesn't implicate controller.
game_controller: Implicated to controller.
remote and remote_control: Same exact thing (one should be aliased to the other), but the former is not implicated to controller while the latter is.
wii_remote: Should these be tagged game_controller, remote_control, both, or neither?

What's left after the cleanup is:
*Madoka flash games (don't want to bother with playing just to find out why it was tagged controller)
*Whole boards of controls (post #1255594, post #934834): the former should be tagged mixer, I think?
*Box-shaped robot controller (post #1197258, post #1163910, post #731701)
*Unsure (post #859514)
*Playstation Move (post #804133): Same question as the Wii Remote, I guess?

I would definitely call the Wii remote and the "PlayStation Move motion controller"* game controllers rather than remote controls IMHO.

*That's the official name. Not as snappy as "Sixaxis" or "DualShock", I think.

I agree with Toks in that, at the end of the day controllers control something. The other terms we use, remote controller, game controller and the like specify what type of controller that is. Personally, I think having a general controller tag on all of it and a more specific tag would make more sense but that could be me.

EB said
joystick: Doesn't implicate controller.
remote and remote_control: Same exact thing (one should be aliased to the other), but the former is not implicated to controller while the latter is.
wii_remote: Should these be tagged game_controller, remote_control, both, or neither?

1. Will implicate controller.
2. Wlll alias to remote_control. Will implicate controller.
3. Will implicate game_controller.

create implication joystick -> controller
create alias remote -> remote_controller
create implication remote_controller -> controller
create implication wii_remote -> game_controller

jxh2154 said:
create alias remote -> remote_controller
create implication remote_controller -> controller

Should be remote_control and not remote_controller for them.

EB said:

Should be remote_control and not remote_controller for them.

Ah right had game_controller in mind when doing it. Fixed.

create alias remote -> remote_control
create alias remote_controller -> remote_control