Lol101 said: And this is how it should have ended. (屮ಥ oಥ)屮 Then again, the producers said neither of them were vigrins and they "did what had to be done" during their happy life together.
Sex isn't everything in life, man. Basically it's saying, "Yeah it sucks that Simon and Nia get cut short, but they had sex at least once, so it's ok." (and honestly I'm more concerned about Yoko. She got screwed out of a lover by fate... twice.)
Also, if you think about it, while Simon couldn't use Spiral Power to resurrect, the reason Nia dissolved was because the Anit-Spiral no longer existed to supply her with energy to subsist on. Well, it seems that spiral power does really well at creating mass and energy. Would it have been too hard to just will into existence the energy she needed?.
But enough water cooler discussion on what could have been the ending. It stands to reason that the way it was ended still fit the a theme of the show: continual persistence in the face of adversity, and finally overcoming it. And, grief is a form of adversity, as brutally demonstrated after episode 8.
artanis00 said: Also, if you think about it, while Simon couldn't use Spiral Power to resurrect, the reason Nia dissolved was because the Anit-Spiral no longer existed to supply her with energy to subsist on. Well, it seems that spiral power does really well at creating mass and energy. Would it have been too hard to just will into existence the energy she needed?.
If you'll recall, exactly that solution was suggested at the wedding just after Nia disintegrated, but Simon shot it down, as the constant output required would have risked creating the Spiral Nemesis.
Dude, even as big of a Simon/Nia fag I am, and no matter how much I really DO wish this were canon, ashot02 really does have a point. If Simon had've brought Nia back it would've went against the entire theme of the show and it would've shown that Simon learned absolutely nothing after Kamina's death.
I believe, that yes, Simon (and Yoko, respectfully) deserved a happy ending above everyone else but is it really worth creating the Spiral Nemesis over AFTER you promised that humans would be the ones to protect the universe?
lordpatthethird said: I think it would have fit in perfectly with the theme of the show.
Think about it. After all that he went through, why should someone who can will a galaxy sized mecha into existence allow something as simple as death best him
artanis00 said: Sex isn't everything in life, man. Basically it's saying, "Yeah it sucks that Simon and Nia get cut short, but they had sex at least once, so it's ok." (and honestly I'm more concerned about Yoko. She got screwed out of a lover by fate... twice.)
Also, if you think about it, while Simon couldn't use Spiral Power to resurrect, the reason Nia dissolved was because the Anit-Spiral no longer existed to supply her with energy to subsist on. Well, it seems that spiral power does really well at creating mass and energy. Would it have been too hard to just will into existence the energy she needed?.
But enough water cooler discussion on what could have been the ending. It stands to reason that the way it was ended still fit the a theme of the show: continual persistence in the face of adversity, and finally overcoming it. And, grief is a form of adversity, as brutally demonstrated after episode 8.
Bringing her back from the dead would be the ultimate subversion of greaf
Why the hell is it so hard to understand that bringing Nia back to life would be abusing Spiral power, something which Simon promised never to do after the final fight, otherwise the universe is fucked. Besides, Simon let go of Nia at her own will. We saw Simon hesitate in the second movie when the Anti-Spiral flat out tells him that if they win, Nia dies. After recovering from the brief BSoD, Nia reassures Simon that she doesn't mind sacrificing herself for the sake of the universe.
Despite the fact that they really deserve their good ending after all the crap they went through, the fact that Simon accepts Nia's wish and lets go of her shows that both of them put the world before their own needs
lordpatthethird said: how is it that bringing back a single person from the dead could cause the spiral Nemesis while the physically impossible battle that happened prior did not.
Further more. They both earned it and nia is so pure that she deserves to live!
But the thing is, if Nia were to be brought back from the dead she would be the harbinger of the Spiral Nemesis. Why should she be the only person to be brought back? What about Kamina? Kittan? Kidd? Makken? Everyone else who died? Think of how people would react if a single person brought a loved one back to life. Everyone's going to want to do it too, and why should Simon be the only person allowed to do it? Eventually people will start playing god, and the world will go back to the way it was when Lordgenome reigned, completely going against the promise that humankind made to the Antispirals.
Yeah, it's pretty unfair, that Simon had to lose her of all people, but that's the way that Nia wanted it to be. She cared about the universe too much to let something like that happen, and Simon respected that.
Kuyukly said: Except he deserved it. He's the one who saved the world--no, the universe. He deserved Nia. He deserved her.
But he did get Nia. He didn't get her for ever and ever, but what little time he had with her was enough for him. Remember, he's Simon the Digger, not Simon the Hero--even if someone were to bring Reality to its knees and give him the possibility of getting Nia back on a consequence-free silver platter, he'd turn it down because it's not what he really wants. He got what he wanted, he did what he needed, and it would honestly be a little selfish to shower praise and adoration on someone who honestly doesn't want it.
He dug his tunnels. If we want to praise him, the best thing to do would be to use those tunnels.