MXZ said: The strongest of Gensokyo. 3rd: Suika. 2nd: Yuuka. 1st: Yukari.
Well if you mean physical strength Yuuka is not even there. It would have to be Suika or Yuugi then Yukari or Remilia/Flandre (being vampires which are a subset of Oni).
If you mean overall destructive ability, Yuuka wins since she can make anything cease to exist by manipulating the border of the object.
Flandre would be an very easy second being that she can make anything go boom. Neither Suika nor Yukari can touch her in that regard.
Pyrolight said: Well if you mean physical strength Yuuka is not even there. It would have to be Suika or Yuugi then Yukari or Remilia/Flandre (being vampires which are a subset of Oni).
If you mean overall destructive ability, Yukari* wins since she can make anything cease to exist by manipulating the border of the object.
Flandre would be an very easy second being that she can make anything go boom. Neither Suika nor Yukari can touch her in that regard.
Yukari controls borders. Yuuka controls flowers.
Though, on the other hand, Yuuka is also known to be one of the oldest youkai to ever live based on a dialog with Shiki in PoFV. This might be why quite a few believe her to be one of the strongest youkai around
Though, on the other hand, Yuuka is also known to be one of the oldest youkai to ever live based on a dialog with Shiki in PoFV. This might be why quite a few believe her to be one of the strongest youkai around
Let me retry that.
Well if you mean physical strength Yukari is not even there. It would have to be Suika or Yuugi then Yuuka or Remilia/Flandre (being vampires which are a subset of Oni).
If you mean overall destructive ability, Yukari wins since she can make anything cease to exist by manipulating the border of the object.
Flandre would be an very easy second being that she can make anything go boom. Neither Suika nor Yuuka can touch her in that regard.
Not the first time I have utterly messed/mixed their names up.
Though, on the other hand, Yuuka is also known to be one of the oldest youkai to ever live based on a dialog with Shiki in PoFV. This might be why quite a few believe her to be one of the strongest youkai around
Can't really argue with Perfect Memento though with regards to how Zun defines their "power".
Yukari can make anything simply cease to exist and Flandre's power is the ability to destroy anything and everything.
It sorta messes up overall "power" balance in the more traditional sense.
Excluding "I win" buttons Yuuka is likely the strongest overall.
Pyrolight said: Can't really argue with Perfect Memento though with regards to how Zun defines their "power".
True, i recall that ZUN never explicitly defines who is the strongest.
Pyrolight said: Excluding "I win" buttons Yuuka is likely the strongest overall.
I disagree, post windows touhou, Yuuka only appears in POFV, thus no prove if newer character like Kanako/Suwako (god) aren't as strong as her.
If refering to POFV, then i would say Shiki is the strongest, since in the story seasonal dream vision, even yukari and yuyuko together avoided her saying that they're no match for her.
Well however it is a safe guess that yuuka, yukari, and suika is one of the top tier in gensokyo.
western_gunner said: True, i recall that ZUN never explicitly defines who is the strongest. I disagree, post windows touhou, Yuuka only appears in POFV, thus no prove if newer character like Kanako/Suwako (god) aren't as strong as her.
I never got the impression they were as strong but will have to wait for the next book he is coming out with in the near future I guess too see where they stand.
If refering to POFV, then i would say Shiki is the strongest, since in the story seasonal dream vision, even yukari and yuyuko together avoided her saying that they're no match for her.
I always forget about Shikieiki. I wonder where she would stand in all of this.
Well however it is a safe guess that yuuka, yukari, and suika is one of the top tier in gensokyo.